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I loved the way they diffused Thor; going in this was my biggest concern - how do you get past the whole Norse God thing? They made the character vulnerable enough that you never felt it was the Captain Hammer and sidekicks show.

In the UK and AU we didn't get a post credit roll bit. There was the mid-credit sequence but Matt mentioned the US kids got a little more after all was said and done. Details?

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Apparently, in the US there's a scene of them all eating dinner or something. Nothing special.

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Did your showing get cheers when, in Stark's penthouse, the Hulk smashed Loki mid-monologue?

The dialogue saved the film for me, it harked back to the first Iron Man movie - fast, witty (for the most part), and character driven.

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Oh, I haven't seen the movie yet. That's just something I've heard from people who have.  wink I'm seeing it on Saturday.

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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The film was very well balanced between all of them. Every avenger had their moments to really shine, even Hawkeye and Black Widow. Favourite moments were Thor holding his hand out for Mjolnir and then smashing Hulk in the head with it, Hawkeye jumping off the building and firing, Iron Man bouncing his repulsor beam thingies off of Cap's shield, Captain America beating up a bunch of Chitauri and then the cut to the cop issuing the orders he had just been given, Banner transforming into the Hulk for the second time, Thor and Loki talking on the cliff, Cap saying "hulk... smash", and I could go on but really need to see the movie again and soon..

In terms of how they dealt with Thor, I felt it was similar to the Hulk. He's very powerful and, crucially, just doesn't stay down. They both ended up being 'ejected' from the helicarrier in similar ways too. I never felt Thor was losing to Iron Man or Hulk, as he would keep getting back up from whatever he'd been hit with. As a huge Thor fan, this made me very happy.

In the other thread, otero commented that he thought Robert Downey Jnr was the star of the show. I disagree and thought if anyone dominated the film it was the Hulk. Everyone talking about the movie afterwards was talking about the Hulk.

If I had any complaint about the film it was the relatively weak opening action scene. There was a moment where I got a little worried. That said, this film masterfully upped the stakes and the action in a way that Thor, Iron Man and Captain America failed, with the peak occuring in the climax rather than earlier (Frost giant battle, Afghanistan and probably train scene, respectively).

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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I thoroughly enjoyed it, but yeah, like a lot of Whedon like material, its a tad slow to start.

Eddie Doty

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Yeah, in the US we got a very funny post-credits bit where it's just all the characters at whatever that diner Stark was talking about, eating, all visibly in shock. Goes on for like twenty seconds, nobody says a words. Cut to black.

Got a huge laugh.

Hey, who was the pink guy in the first end credits scene? The guy who's gonna be in the sequel?

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Thanos.

That....will be interesting to do, especially if they even try to tackle the Infinity Gauntlet story.  The key line of dialogue there was "To battle earth is to court Death."  I capitalize Death because in the Marvel U, Death is anthropomorphized as a silent woman.   And Thanos is madly in love with her.  So much so that he kills entire populations in a quest to impress her and be her equal.  The way he smiled at that line suggests that that is an aspect of his character that might make it to the screen.

He's such an interesting character though, (and everyone will collectively groan when I suggest this), but HE could have his own movie to set up Avengers 2.

Eddie Doty

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I should also note that they planted seeds for TWO possible storylines in the film.  One being Thanos, the other being the Civil War storyline.

In the Civil War arc, the government cracks down on masked superheroes after a battle results in the incineration of a small town, killing thousands.  The government passes a bill requiring all SUper powered folk to register and be employed by the government.  The Avengers split down the middle in their support of it; Iron Man adamantly supports the bill, Captain America does not.  Those who do remain Avengers while Cap leads a dissident underground group of Avengers to battle not just Iron Man's faction, but the nefarious forces behind the new law.  Consequences were never the same.

Eddie Doty

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Oh! I thought it was Red Skull,... After he was sucked through the tesseract portal at the end on Captian America.

"Life is about movies; anything else is a bonus!"- Me   cool

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Eddie Doty

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I heard somewhere that Thanos will be the villain in Avengers 2, and Avengers 3 will basically be Civil War.

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Well they finally made a hulk I want to see in his own franchise, as long as Joss writes the script.

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They shot this secretly only a week or two ago, and Chris Evans had grown a beard for another project since they wrapped filming. So he had to wear a prosthetic on his face to cover it up. He could barely move his jaw.

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Protection and power are overrated. I think you are very wise to choose happiness and love. -Uncle Iroh

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Just saw it and wow, fucking great comic book movie. It's impressive how many awesome scenes they gave to every character. I also really liked how funny it was. This is how to make a great comic book movie.

There were more laughs coming from Hulk's stuff than anything, tho. The Loki bit in the penthouse, the "...smash" line and subsequent rampage, the bit where he wakes up Stark at the end. The part where he punches Thor... People outside after the show were just recapping how awesome Hulk was. Hulk was pretty rad in this flick. I was kinda more impressed with Black Widow, tho, and how they totally turned her from some second-string afterthought in Ironman 2 to having a couple or really great scenes with her in this one, and some really good fights and stuff.

Best part for me, tho, was after the screening. Just walked outside with a huge smile on my face, and up walks this whole family - sans mom - that were all dressed up like the Avengers. Dad was Nick Fury, the youngest one was Hulk and had those big hulk hands on, the Thor kid had a viking helmet and mjolnir, etc. I so wish I'd had a camera, but I didn't have any of my camera-bearing electronic devices on me at the time. Most awesome dad award goes to that man for the day.

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Okay, now that I've seen it, I can offer my reaction...

Meh. Fun to watch, but ultimately less fulfilling than the films that preceded it.

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Just watched it, and I really wish people wouldn't bring their baby kids to the theatre (there were like 3 different ones crying through a lot of the film). The movie was fun, but I really didn't think it was anything too special. I agree that the Hulk really stole the show, ruffalo did a great job as banner, and the other guy was a great addition too. The action scenes were also pretty well done. But honestly the story just never did it for me. I know you aren't supposed to walk into a movie like this expecting a great and intriguing story line, but I couldn't help but feel like something was missing when I walked out. I also don't think this film comes anywhere near the level of The Dark Knight. I know they're supposed to be different, but dark knight was much stronger in my opinion. I think a lot of it has to do with the lack of stakes that trey mentioned.

Now that I think about it, this movie is sort of like a perfectly made sandwich. As far as sandwiches go, its amazing. But I'd rather have a decent steak, than a perfect sandwich.

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