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If there was ever a movie I wish I could have sat in with y'all on, it would have been this one.
Demolition Man is one of my favorite movies. At first it comes off as a standard 90's "Action-Comedy", but once you realize it's actually an incredibly clever satire on both society & it's own film genre...it just goes to another level.
David Goyer sucks.
The guy is a total hack. He has written so much garbage like
KICKBOXER 2: THE ROAD BACK
DEMONIC TOYS
PUPPET MASTERS
GHOST RIDER: SPIRIT OF VENGEANCE
THE CROW: CITY OF ANGELS
NICK FURY: AGENT OF SHIELD
THE UNBORN
JUMPER
BLADE: TRINITY.
The first BLADE is okay... BLADE II was rewritten by Guillermo Del Toro. DARK CITY and those Batman movies? Other, more talented, people worked on those... praise those guys.
Hasselhoff!!
David Goyer sucks.
The guy is a total hack. He has written so much garbage like
KICKBOXER 2: THE ROAD BACK
DEMONIC TOYS
PUPPET MASTERS
GHOST RIDER: SPIRIT OF VENGEANCE
THE CROW: CITY OF ANGELS
NICK FURY: AGENT OF SHIELD
THE UNBORN
JUMPER
BLADE: TRINITY.The first BLADE is okay... BLADE II was rewritten by Guillermo Del Toro. DARK CITY and those Batman movies? Other, more talented, people worked on those... praise those guys.
Don't hold back...tell us how you really feel 
I still need to work through the rest of the Blade 2 script, but unless I uncovered the rewrite with no Del Toro credit, the first scene was almost identical, save for some minor directing choices, which I would expect moving from script to screen.
Even if he isn't a shit writer, he's an AWFUL AWFUL director. Blade 3 is a piece of shit, so is The Unborn or whatever the name of that dumb horror movie he directed.
I personally blame him for killing the blade franchise, Wesley may have been a bastard on set, but he was acting that way because he could tell Goyer didn't understand wtf he was doing and was ruining the character.
He kills off Westler in the lamest way possible, then replaces him with 20-year old vampire hunters who listen to shitty-techno music from their i-pods mid-fight? What the fuck is that shit doing in a blade movie.
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Even if he isn't a shit writer, he's an AWFUL AWFUL director. Blade 3 is a piece of shit, so is The Unborn or whatever the name of that dumb horror movie he directed.
I personally blame him for killing the blade franchise, Wesley may have been a bastard on set, but he was acting that way because he could tell Goyer didn't understand wtf he was doing and was ruining the character.
He kills off Westler in the lamest way possible, then replaces him with 20-year old vampire hunters who listen to shitty-techno music from their i-pods mid-fight? What the fuck is that shit doing in a blade movie.
Welcome to the 90's man
Even if he isn't a shit writer, he's an AWFUL AWFUL director. Blade 3 is a piece of shit, so is The Unborn or whatever the name of that dumb horror movie he directed.
I personally blame him for killing the blade franchise, Wesley may have been a bastard on set, but he was acting that way because he could tell Goyer didn't understand wtf he was doing and was ruining the character.
He kills off Westler in the lamest way possible, then replaces him with 20-year old vampire hunters who listen to shitty-techno music from their i-pods mid-fight? What the fuck is that shit doing in a blade movie.
And the worst Dracula ever.
Oh wait, no, "Drake" is his name... because "Dracula" just doesn't sound cool to modern audiences.
bullet3 wrote:Even if he isn't a shit writer, he's an AWFUL AWFUL director. Blade 3 is a piece of shit, so is The Unborn or whatever the name of that dumb horror movie he directed.
I personally blame him for killing the blade franchise, Wesley may have been a bastard on set, but he was acting that way because he could tell Goyer didn't understand wtf he was doing and was ruining the character.
He kills off Westler in the lamest way possible, then replaces him with 20-year old vampire hunters who listen to shitty-techno music from their i-pods mid-fight? What the fuck is that shit doing in a blade movie.Welcome to the 90's man
Blade Trinity was released in 2004 
fireproof78 wrote:bullet3 wrote:Even if he isn't a shit writer, he's an AWFUL AWFUL director. Blade 3 is a piece of shit, so is The Unborn or whatever the name of that dumb horror movie he directed.
I personally blame him for killing the blade franchise, Wesley may have been a bastard on set, but he was acting that way because he could tell Goyer didn't understand wtf he was doing and was ruining the character.
He kills off Westler in the lamest way possible, then replaces him with 20-year old vampire hunters who listen to shitty-techno music from their i-pods mid-fight? What the fuck is that shit doing in a blade movie.Welcome to the 90's man
Blade Trinity was released in 2004
Um, that's totally what I meant...oops
Though the 2000s were definitely known for their techno music.
Curious if Blade will get the Marvel reboot treatment? I know the rights have reverted back to Marvel and they have a script, supposedly.
It would very likely be a PG-13 Blade, though. Apparently Disney have absolutely no desire to release any R rated Marvel films (obviously, they're Disney).
I'd rather no more blade forever than a PG-13 blade. Just....NO. Blade swears, he bleeds, he cuts vampires to pieces, you do not mess with that.
But ya, Demolition Man...
+1
Didn't they have a short-lived Blade TV series? I never saw it myself but I once heard that it improved towards the end, but that by that time, no-one was watching.
I was just thinking though, with regards to Stallone. If you were going to introduce someone to him, who didn't think much of him based mostly off of his beefcake Rambo legacy and crooked mouth shouting, would you suggest Demolition Man? What films show Stallone to be, overall, a better actor than Arnold for instance?
I'd rather no more blade forever than a PG-13 blade. Just....NO. Blade swears, he bleeds, he cuts vampires to pieces, you do not mess with that.
Indeed
Didn't they have a short-lived Blade TV series? I never saw it myself but I once heard that it improved towards the end, but that by that time, no-one was watching.
Yeah, it was on 'basic cable' and it was fairly violent. Dull but fairly violent.
I mentioned in the chat during the live show that I didn't like the score much for this film. This scene has the best example of that-
Pretty much agree with you guys, the ideas and gags are good fun, and the production design and supporting cast are both great, but it all peeters out at the end and becomes a run of the mill action movie, it's a shame, it does so much right.
I've never cared for Snipes but to my surprise he's a delight in this, Denis Leary, though, isn't particularly good in his role, obviously cast for his little monologue. But I think the movie's greatest weakness is Stallone himself. His heart is in it but he simply hasn't got the chops for the comedy which really hurts the movie big time, and there's no chemistry between him and Bullock. Speaking of, she's an absolute hero, totaly gets the tone and gives it all she's got, and is completely adorable. She never left an impression on me back then, but seeing her now years later in Speed and this I really dig her.
Would have loved to see Kurt Russel in this instead of Sly, he would have brought both the comedy and the chemistry and I could see this becomming a cult classic on the level of Big Trouble, the cheese was ripe for harvest.
The stageyness of the underground city sets got me thinking: Demolition Man The Musical. The tone would fit perfectly with satirical pompous propaganda songs and theatrical machinations. Smoke, lights and primary colors. Could be hillarious.
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