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Well, they're all being played by posh English spies, Egyptian Spaniard swordsmen, Russian submarine captains, Chicago Irish cops, and a dude from the future who wears a diaper, bandoleers, and thigh-high boots.

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Well one of the buggers is the young Billy Connolly, and there's Robbie Coltrane, Craig Ferguson, Kevin McKidd, Kelly Macdonald... Frankly, a shed-load of Scotts.

I wonder if they've tried to hold back some of the brogue and burr to make it easier on international audiences?

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4 (edited by Jimmy B 2011-11-16 13:43:33)

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Craig and Ewan need to have babies this instant, by the way. They're a cute fucking couple.

He's fun with Gerry Butler, too, but aw. He wants to be Ewan's older brother so bad.

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Gerard Butler was on UK tv a couple of months ago playing for Celtic in a charity football match and when he was being interviewed he was all sorts of Scottish big_smile


(this has nothing to do with anything really, you just reminded me about it when you mention Butler smile)

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In PIXAR I trust................

but the shot of the slow motion arrow was pretty cool....

"Life is about movies; anything else is a bonus!"- Me   cool

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Those accents are all fine, but they're definitely actual Scots Scotting up the place, and being all Scottish about it, a bit like tall people actively making a point of their height, rather than just being ordinarily overbearing.

They're all more authentic than Simon Pegg's Scotty, for example, which was a good effort on his part, but with flaws.

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For a pixar trailer, that's pretty dissapointing. I mean, sure, I'll watch it, but I won't be all "OHMYGODTHISISGONABESOEPIC".

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Are you sure that was Pixar? I'm pretty sure that was Dreamworks. Yeah, Dreamworks. That makes more sense.

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Pixar doesn't make good trailers. Wall.e, Up, both trailers made me "meh"

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I hadn't noticed the "clarified Scot" tint of their accents the first time I saw the trailer weeks ago, but yeah, it makes sense they would do that to help it play internationally.

If that's the case though, think there's a chance that could actually impede on the performances? Like, extra mental cycles have to go towards specific, unnatural enunciations.

But hey could be wrong and that could just be the thing you're getting paid to be a voice actor for. Dunno.

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Ya, this looks completely like a Dreamworks movie, and there was a really damning early screening review a few months back that combined with this trailer has totally sapped any enthusiasm for this project. Cars 2, now this, and their follow up the next year is another Monster's Inc movie. I think Pixar is finished guys, it had a good run, maybe Dreamworks will pick up the torch and become the new Pixar (How To Train Your Dragon is outstanding, and better than the last few Pixar flicks).

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But we knew that Cars 2 was going to be be bad. Maybe we hoped that it wouldn't, but there was little chance that it would be good. In fact, some Pixar fans are still roaming the internet praising it as another Pixar masterpiece.

However, I'll give them another chance. Yes, the trailer for Brave is silly, but lots of Pixar trailers have been. If Brave really is bad, perhaps Pixar will be finished. But I'll give them one slipup.

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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I assume Cars 2 was flawed since the film was an exercise in nostalgia, and everything was geared towards that theme.

Taking the same group of characters and throwing them into some wacky spy scenario probably worked about as well as that episode of Happy Days where they went to space.


Judgements on Brave reserved on the grounds that Pixar trailers are understandably broad and conservative.

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Considering that Pixar finally had a straight up bad movie bad movie with Cars 2 I think it's safe to assume they got that out of their system for a while. I thinks it's safe to go back to assuming a certain level of quality for another 9 or 10 movies, then I'll start worrying again. And as far as patterns go that's not too bad.

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I think the trailer only really shows the first parts of the movie. They don't go into any supernatural aspects in the trailer, aside from the little blue lights in the woods. I have a feeling there's more to the movie than the Disney Princess™ plotline they're showing us. I'd be willing to bet that that's mostly a misdirection.

The trailer does suck, tho.

I wish they hadn't bailed on Newt. That movie looked promising.

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Wow, I was trying to pull up that negative Brave review and it looks like AICN was forced to pull it.

@Squiggly_P: The reviewer made it sound like most of the movie was the typical lame disney princess plotline stuff, and that the whole thing felt pretty aimless (also that the protagonist accomplishes almost nothing significant in the whole movie). Granted, Pixar is known for reworking their stories multiple times during production, so I give them a bit of lee-way, but I'm not hopeful.

And Monster's University is their next project.
Teague, you should know that I love Monster's Inc dearly, it is one of my favorite Pixar movies.
However, a prequel with the character's at College sounds like a complete waste of time. The draw of the original was the interaction between Monster World and the Real World, and the monster's relationship with the little girl.

A prequel at college just doesn't sound like there's a lot of character potential there. I have a sinking feeling the whole movie is just going to be a bunch of gags about college-life equivalents in monster world, and that just sounds completely boring to me (that could almost be a dtv sequel with that concept).

Wall-E seems like Mullholland Dr. by comparison, if we were to talk ballsiness and originality.

What I really wish is that they would take a chance and make an original animated movie that skewed upward age-wise. The Incredibles is the closest thing they've done to that, and its also my favorite movie of theirs. A PG-13 sci-fi movie from Pixar could be amazing.

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Saw La Luna today, the Oscar considered short that will be playing before Brave, and saw a presentation from the director, Enrico Casarosa. It's the longest Pixar short they've ever produced, there isn't much in the way of action, there's only three characters and two sets. And it rocks. It's beautiful, elegant, efficient storytelling, that barely strays from the original storyboards and animatics that were shown from the pitch. 

Any other studio, I would just say yeah, duh, the shorts get to go nuts since they're not producing a piece of work that's responsible to the "vast, interwoven, interacting, multivaried, multinational dominion of dollars". And it does sound like with La Luna they were given the chance to just sorta go off and make this thing. But these are the people that previously gave us that movie about the elderly man that had to float his damn house through the jungle with talking dogs to come to terms with his new life as a widower. They're familiar with chances.

I'm not privy to the specifics of decisions at the top of Disney•Pixar, but did something shift up top to make them have to work a little more conservatively at the feature level? Hope it's not that the chance that informs this project is just that it has a female lead.

Again, I'm reserving judgement on Brave until I see it, this is just the crap I'm thinking about since it's odd to be hearing such negative press about something that isn't coming out for so long.

Oh and VFX nerds: The amount of hand drawn and painted elements in La Luna is awesome. They printed out the UVs for the individual slats of the boat, painted them in watercolors, scanned them back in, and slapped them on geometry. Same for the matte paintings and the moon, just with pastels and stuff.

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@Squiggly_P: Couldn't agree more. The ending of Wall-E was the turning point for me as well. They had a potentially amazing tragic ending there that was perfectly setup and didn't have the balls to go through with it (though I can live with it, it's still a damn good movie as far as I'm concerned). Up was great for about 15 minutes, but I think the rest of that movie is horribly over-rated, its in the bottom half of Pixar movies for me.

I've been holding out hope for adult animation to take foot in the US for over a decade now, and it just doesn't seem to be happening. Beowulf I don't really count because they just animated it to look live-action, so it doesn't even feel like an animated movie at all. The Final Fantasy movie ended up being garbage. The closest thing I can think of that I really liked was Titan A.E (saw it opening day). I guess there was A Scanner Darkly, but that was shot live action and rotoscoped, so I don't really count it either.

It doesn't help that all the movies I mentioned were financial failures, so maybe its just a problem with American audiences, but I still think they should give it another shot. If marketed properly, there's no reason a PG-13 rated 2d animated movie couldn't be successful here.

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Akira, for instance. They'd probably make a lot more money by just putting a couple million dollars into marketing a theatrical release of the animated film, rather than blow $60 Million on making some crap americanized live-action flick. Akira is going to be a disaster in live-action. They will lose money, even if they shot it at half that much money. It will be another Dragonball.

The animated film, tho...  I'd cut off my pinky finger Yakuza-style to see the animated film in a theater. I would probably see it multiple times.

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