Topic: Sucker Punch

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I've been waiting for this puppy.

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Extended or Regular?

and thank god it wasnt howard the duck.

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Regular.

And Howard the Duck is coming yet. wink

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its not perfect but i like this movie.  not sure if i really want to hear this commentary as previous comments don't give me much hope of an unbiased viewing (the pans labyrinth one still irks me)....

we'll see tomorrow at work i guess

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This is one of those episodes I really enjoy.  I didn't care for this film going in, but this conversation got me to, if not change my mind, at least shift it slightly from "Do not like" to "It's ok."

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"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Coming from a jersey resident, teague, that accent is pisspoor.

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You should hear my Michael Caine.

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Cellar Door?

12 (edited by Squiggly_P 2011-09-19 17:04:57)

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You guys all missed a great trepanation joke/Ghostbusters reference, by the way. It was the perfect opportunity. "Hey, that would have worked if you hadn't stopped me" is a great line, and I use it a lot, but you guys were actually talking about drilling holes in heads. That sort of setup comes along once in a lifetime.

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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My god, you're right.

*commits Sepuku*

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I didn't miss the connection, I just don't actually do Ghostbusters references. I figure, if you know Ghostbusters, the reference goes without saying. And if you don't, we can't be friends.

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If the Golden Compass movie had been a success, we could have had a children's movie with trepanation in it (along with all the atheism). Sadly, tis not to be...

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Conversely, if the filmmakers had had the kind of balls you'd need to put trepanation and atheism in a children's movie, GOLDEN COMPASS might have been a success.

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You don't really get most of that till the second book anyways. As I've said before, I just wanted to see them TRY and adapt The SUBTLE KNIFE ...

As for Sucker Punch, I don't think promoting it as "anime" would have helped. For one thing, anime has almost always flopped in US theaters unless it's the more family friendly Studio Ghibli stuff Disney has the rights to. Second... compared to some of the live action stuff Japan tries to do on a third of the budget, this wasn't that impressive. At the very least, it needed more overt lesbians. smile

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There were a bunch of threads on various message boards trying to break down the story and metaphors and stuff when the film came out. One in particular stuck out to me because it was incredibly deranged yet plausible too. I can't find exact post at the moment, so here's the gist of it:

The insane asylum world is the real world. The burlesque parlor world is Sweat Pea's broken psyche's rationalization of the real world. "Dancing" in the burlesque world equates to sex in the real world. Anytime a girl is dancing, she is screwing an orderly in reality. Thus, when Baby Doll is dancing to distract guards, she is actually getting banged by an orderly while the other girls are doing their part in acquiring maps or whatever. The crazy insane fantasy worlds with German zombies and robots are Baby Doll's way of dealing with the rape in the asylum. The entire film is essentially about a bunch of mental patients coping with the sexual abuse from orderlies and doctors by imaging dream scenarios where they're free.

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Sucker Punch was mind-numbingly awful. A complete waste of time.

Hack Snyder is just a terrible storyteller.

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I generally agree with your guys' views on it. My biggest frustration is that when you take the fantasy sequences on their own, they're extremely awesome, but by making them dream sequences you make them completely useless. I really wish Snyder had just done a Heavy Metal type crazy fantasy/sci-fi anthology instead with these same sequences, because then I could actually feel invested in them.

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Iron Sky is being made in Finland, not Norway.

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if dancing = sex/rape, then how does that work when BD was dancing on the table of the kitchen, cos when they cut back from the fantasy world they cut back to her dancing on the table ?

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