I've been waiting for this puppy.

Regular.

And Howard the Duck is coming yet.

If it means anything, I was gleeful with anticipation that they'd finally give Snyder the dressing-down he deserves.  No luck.  I don't think anybody is walking away from this commentary happy.

Actually, I was really pleased with this commentary. It makes a great argument in favor of the movie while still acknowledging its flaws and coming up with ways to fix them.

You should hear my Michael Caine.

You were talking about the way Snyder may have been saying "Well, if you don't like movies where the plot is ridiculous and the movie is just an excuse to objectify women and have huge crazy action and shit like that, then stop demanding these movies. Stop giving movies like this all your money."

I think you guys are right, that the movie is an attempt to take what nerds want to see, and then lay that on top of a story about something horrible and depressing and sad and serious. Unfortunately, like you guys say, the metaphor kinda breaks down. If the script had been run through a few more times just to make sure all the weird metaphor crap made sense and that everything had tied together well it probably would have been a fantastic flick that would have provoked some interesting talk about film. Take this really dark story, distract people from it with the CGI dance numbers, then slap the audience in the face at the end with the lobotomy scene. I think if it had worked it would have sparked some interesting talk about films and it would be something you could point at and say "you see? you don't have to make fucking transformers! you can make these movies fun and smart!"

Unfortunately it didn't quite work out that way. I'd never seen it before until now, tho. I didn't dislike it, but yeah, it's not really rewatchable.

I wanna see Iron Sky as well.

There's a documentary called "Like A Hole In The Head" about trepanation.
Beware that even this trailer has some very graphic moments in it. I'm talking people with their scalps peeled back and trepanation in progress. You have been warned.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoU_-ru8yEc

I watched it about half way through a while back. I can't deal with real blood and stuff in documentaries. Anyway, they talk to some modern people who are apparently going out and getting trepanated even today. According to them it's like being high all the time, or like being on a higher plane of existence and all this other new-agey BS. There's even a guy in the doc who trepanated himself and describes what it was like.

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My god, you're right.

*commits Sepuku*

If the Golden Compass movie had been a success, we could have had a children's movie with trepanation in it (along with all the atheism). Sadly, tis not to be...

You don't really get most of that till the second book anyways. As I've said before, I just wanted to see them TRY and adapt The SUBTLE KNIFE ...

As for Sucker Punch, I don't think promoting it as "anime" would have helped. For one thing, anime has almost always flopped in US theaters unless it's the more family friendly Studio Ghibli stuff Disney has the rights to. Second... compared to some of the live action stuff Japan tries to do on a third of the budget, this wasn't that impressive. At the very least, it needed more overt lesbians.

What, you haven't been watching FRINGE?

I generally agree with your guys' views on it. My biggest frustration is that when you take the fantasy sequences on their own, they're extremely awesome, but by making them dream sequences you make them completely useless. I really wish Snyder had just done a Heavy Metal type crazy fantasy/sci-fi anthology instead with these same sequences, because then I could actually feel invested in them.

I was under the impression that was the commonly accepted interpretation.

If that isn't, what do most people think it is?