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Updated. Adobe DOESN'T offer CS2 for free, Forbes is dumb.
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1 2013-01-07 08:08:10 (edited by paulou 2013-01-07 16:11:06)
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Re: Updated. Adobe DOESN'T offer CS2 for free, Forbes is dumb.
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Re: Updated. Adobe DOESN'T offer CS2 for free, Forbes is dumb.
Refresh, it comes and goes. Imagine they're getting hit pretty hard.
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Don't know if they've been hit pretty hard, or if they've exploded. Cannot get to that link.
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I got to it just fine. I'm already paying for Creative Cloud, so I don't need it, but damn, that is a nice thing to do!
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UPDATE: It's not technically 'free', it is only going to be available for those with existing Adobe CS2 as they have just cancelled their CS2 license management servers. Which I don't understand, but someone might 
Re: Updated. Adobe DOESN'T offer CS2 for free, Forbes is dumb.
So you can dowload the software, they provide you with valid serial numbers that require no authentication but you're not allowed to use them if don't have a copy of CS2 already. Yeah.... that's totally gonna work.
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Yeah, that's absurd. If anyone recalls, CS2 was the first major release that integrated Macromedia's really awful authentication. So this is a fitting bizarre end to that.
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*anguish*
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- Tomahawk
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not endorsing it. It's a morally gray area, and Adobe DID in fact offer these serials to the general public.
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I do agree. I thought, when it first happened, that STEAM selling Mac games would be great. After all, we had been ignored for years, and now the floodgates would open. Now I'll pay more for a non-Steam version of a game, only using the service if I want to play a Valve game. Dragon Age 2 as well, apart from the problems with the game itself, was incredibly annoying with its demand you sign in online. I was already ignoring Sims 3, and if Sim City is online only that's another franchise that's losing a customer.
As for old online games being unplayable now, I don't have a problem with a game having a limited lifespan. There are old play by mail games I doubt the old address are still valid for 
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Steam is both excellent and horrible at the same time. When I bought Skyrim on a physical disc last year(2011, anyway), we only had a mobile broadband connection, and to my amusement, not only did I have to be online to INSTALL the game, Steam started download of the entire game, when I had it ON DISC.
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That happened to me with Shogun Total War 2. I was less than amused as it's not a small game - fortunately I was able to cancel it and find a workaround. I find the real strength of Steam is that you can get games without having to go out (which is more important than you might think since non-new PC games are actually pretty hard to find in stores these days), but you are subjected to the whims of your internet connection and the Steam servers and that can be frustrating. I've not yet run into a situation where I've not been able to play a game at all for longer than a few hours - though I have been hit with a temporary 'can't play this right now' messages from Steam.
It makes me wonder though, at what point can/should a company legally/morally/economically stop supporting a product/service you paid for?
Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan
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CS2 came out during like Peak DRM, and Adobe has refined their efforts for the better since then. Creative Cloud licensing, for example, only checks on your subscription once a month. This whole thing is just a matter of dealing with a dopey legacy. These years later, positive user experience has trumped the strictest rights management.
The Mac App Store and Steam for instance, provide pretty excellent experiences. The more interesting conversation, particularly with the Mac/iOS app stores is the commoditization of software, reducing the impetus for developers to refine and build on a thing someone has already paid for, and either give free upgrades or provide add-on purchases. It's not an environment that supports grand upgrades or iterative product cycles, the exact kind of thing that gives us great professional tools like Photoshop.
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xavier: Yeah, I found a workaround, too. I had too. Our quota for DL's was 6GB. Skyrim is 5.7.
However, it shouldn't be like that when you have the disc. That's why I bought the disc in the fist place.
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The Mac App Store gives you a program that is a self contained entity, at least. You never have to connect to the net again to prove you own it.
IOS programers actually do keep shoveling new content into their games, extending their lives. I'm not sure if the end of the old software model is a good, or bad thing. We'll have to see. The idea of programs only being updated when there's a real reason to update them is appealing. Apple has been tweaking their Pages word processor with updates every year, but still have it listed as the 2009 version. I can't see where holding it all back for a new 2012 release would have been better. I do predict we'll see the end of using years in product names for this reason
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