BTW, there's a lovely little documentary called The Pixar Story on Netflix Instant right now. Not quite as good or as interesting as Waking Sleeping Beauty, but...good and interesting nonetheless.

Watching the Incredibles is so much fun. One thing I noticed was that the Incredibles was the first pixar film I saw that did not have a over all message directed at kids. Not a bad thing just different. This may not even be true, it was just things in the previous films that I interpreted and perhaps was not meant to, but I do personally think that it was put in there intentionally. If you don't understand what Im saying here I'll try to break it down for you.

Toy Story had a story about making room for another family member in the way kids have to handle a new baby brother/sister. A kid may feel like woody seeing as that they are getting less love and attention as the baby seems to take over there parents life.

Bugs Life was about being different. Telling kids its ok to not be like everyone else, and especially kids with who have a sort of birth deficiency or trait that makes them feel like the odd man out, but like flicks unique mind it is what makes you special.

Toy Story 2 seemed to be making a statement to kids about enjoy being a kid wile it lasts. Woody sees there are perks to giving up the world that he new but would miss the fun. Kids may talk of wanting to be adults faster but being a kid is golden time live and should live it to the fullest.

Monsters inc. had (again what i thought to be) a powerful message about how people treat others before knowing them. The monsters would scare the children and think nothing of it. In the same way that a group of kids may pick on a kid who was some how different from them. However when sully got to know boo he felt awful when he scared her and then did every thing he could to help her get home. This movie was also the first that seemed to be able to aim at kids and adults, seeing as in many adults are prejudiced, also one reason sully is so big and tuff.

Nemo also had dual sort of aim to kids and adults but this time 2 stories to tell. Kids need to learn that their parents don't let them do some things because they love them and don't want to see them get hurt. Wile parents need to learn that the point of being a parent is to raise your kid to be able to function on their own and be able to let go.

Then came the Incredibles, which is the first pixar film i saw in theaters and the first pixar film i saw that I didn't feel had that recurring theme of a message to kids. Again not bad (in fact somewhat refreshing) but it was the first one i thought was sort of not your typical pixar film.

The point being that despite that typical pixar element missing, as far as i can see most kids (most grown up a bit now) still see  the incredibles as one of Pixar's best films, which means changing the forum and taking a risk can really pay off if you know what your doing.

Interesting that someone pointed out how Edna might have created a suit for Syndrome if he had asked. I believe I heard somewhere that Edna Mode was going to be the villain at some point. And I think Syndrome was going to be the first villain rather than the main one. There is a deleted alternate opening on the DVD where he basically dies in the beginning (it's probably on youtube). It almost works as a prequel as Violet is a baby.

I don't know that Edna would have created a suit for Buddy though. He wasn't a Super and she had the whole "I designed for gods" thing. If she had been the villain, it would have been interesting if she was actually helping Buddy in order to bring the Supers back.

I think you've got it backwards. Bob doesn't have to learn to hide what makes him special, he has to teach everyone else not to. The movie agrees with Bob, so it's not actually part of his arc.

Because it's ok to be special, but you shouldn't be a dick about it