Re: Doctor Who is awesome, yeah?
8 1/2 x 11
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8 1/2 x 11
8 1/2 x 11
...huh?
The War Doctor (between the 8th and 9th, hence 8.5) by the 11th Doctor.
8.5 x 11. Standard letter format.
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The Doctor meets Sherlock....
I'm again torn by a fanfic. It starts off so well, but then ends so weak.
Even while I recognized the clips of Sherlock because I've watched the series at least a half-dozen times, for the first couple minutes I honestly wasn't sure if it was fan-made or not. Great job setting it up and editing to make it feel legit and build tension.
Then Sherlock gets in the TARDIS and it all falls apart. I don't even care about the fact that the VFX made their faces look like the baby in Entrade commercials. It got the point across, even if I felt there were ways to edit around it to minimize that particular effect. As long as the point is across, I'm fine with less than perfect effects.
No, it's just that once Sherlock gets in the TARDIS, the dialog turns into the likes of an Ebaum's world sound board crank call (showing my age on that reference). The dialog was disjointed and spent about a minute and a half saying nothing at all. I know it's tricky because you'd like to use direct lines from each character, but there's so much Cumberbatch and Smith dialog to choose from (you don't even need to limit yourself to Sherlock/Who, either) that I can't imagine that it would be impossible to splice together a minute of genuinely interesting banter between those two characters.
...and now I'm contemplating a potential crossover story.
I don't like the idea of the Doctor, particularly Matt Smith's bumbling immature know-it-all version, leading Sherlock around for an adventure. I think it'd be much more interesting to have a situation like in Human Nature / Family of Blood, where the Doctor has transmitted his Time Lord essence into some macguffin that becomes the subject of one of Sherlock's cases. Smith comes to Sherlock because something of his has been stolen and while he doesn't know why, it's immensely important for him to get it back.
Sherlock takes the case of the missing item (let's go with Pocket Watch), much to the surprise of Watson. Sherlock explains that it's not about the watch, but rather he sees something off with Smith himself.
S: Something off. He moves like a person, speaks like a person, looks like a person...
W: Most people do.
S: ...but there's something off. Something missing. It's like he's merely playing a part.
W: So he's trying to con us?
S: I don't think the con is for us, John.
W: Well who's it for then?
S: I think it might be for him.
They hunt down the watch. Steal it back instead of involving the police, as they aren't sure what to make of Smith or the mysteriously strange people they encounter along the way (aliens, obviously). Those that stole the watch come after Sherlock & Watson. Smith becomes the Doctor again, saves the day and our Baker Street heroes. Sherlock is intruiged, Watson is flabergasted, Smith gives us a little rant about how every deed we do impacts the entire universe (validating Sherlock's work) and Bob's your uncle.
I couldn't agree with you more, BBQ.
It's impressive technically, floating faces aside, sure. But it has nothing to say, other than "hey look at these two iconic characters interacting, isn't it cool?"
Sadly, people applaud stuff like this as incredible, must-watch entertainment. I see it all over Facebook when it comes out. Like that Wonder Woman concept trailer from a couple of months ago. I can fully appreciate the work, effort, talent and skill that goes into creating them, but they're nothing more than exercises in superficial pandering at best.
Your little concept story is already 1000x more intriguing and entertaining than this was.
The VFX amazes me, but yeah, the dialogue choices were odd. But, then, I am not a Smith fan as the Doctor.
Personally, I would rather watch Cumberbatch as the Doctor. If we are going to fan fic, then Sherlock is a hidden generation, similar to BBQ's idea, except that the Doctor is playing out the life of Sherlock in an attempt to hide himself.
Damn, BBQ. I like your dialogue.
*sobs*
Post-Sob Edit:
Also loved the tying-up of all of Eleven's loose plot threads regarding the Silence. It made his run feel self-contained (50th Anniversary shenanigans aside) and made the ending feel more final.
It moved a bit too quickly in the middle, though. And the deus ex machina at the end was WAY too easy, especially for Moffat. Seriously, that's all you've got?
"So Steven, how does he regenerate even though he's run out?"
"Uh...the Time Lords give him more. I dunno, my brain's pretty much dried up at this point."
Last edited by Doctor Submarine (2013-12-26 04:12:33)
I lost it at
Kidding aside though, I was completely underwhelmed by Capaldi's brief performance. Tennant's first few seconds were great, Smith's were amazing, but Capaldi's was more like "What are we filming today? Doctor Who? Alrite, mate, I'll give it a go".
I actually quite liked that they didn't do the long lingering regeneration effect and just "popped" right into Capaldi. I found it a refreshing change.
I wanted a morph =/
I actually quite liked that they didn't do the long lingering regeneration effect and just "popped" right into Capaldi. I found it a refreshing change.
*sobs*
Post-Sob Edit:
You know what I liked about this episode? It didn't have the plodding runtime or the crazily mawkish sentimentality of Tennant's exit. The Doctor goes out saving ordinary people, not saving the universe. That's what it's all about.Also loved the tying-up of all of Eleven's loose plot threads regarding the Silence. It made his run feel self-contained (50th Anniversary shenanigans aside) and made the ending feel more final.
It moved a bit too quickly in the middle, though. And the deus ex machina at the end was WAY too easy, especially for Moffat. Seriously, that's all you've got?
"So Steven, how does he regenerate even though he's run out?"
"Uh...the Time Lords give him more. I dunno, my brain's pretty much dried up at this point."
Irregardless, the Time Lords can grant more regenerations, based upon their need at the time. Since Gallifrey has been pushed to another dimension, rather than in the Time Lock. Meaning that they can, somewhat, influence, the universe. So, the granting of more regenerations is something that works in terms of the story and universe, if a bit of a cheap way to give the Doctor more.
I liked the Harry-Potter-esque bits of molten slag coming off the effect, myself. That's new.
I liked the Harry-Potter-esque bits of molten slag coming off the effect, myself. That's new.
I was actually going to say, I really liked that as well, added a really cool touch to it.
As for the episode as a whole:
It just lacked any sense of time whatsoever, and (I think) that was supposed to be the whole point of Trenzelor, it's this place the Doctor has spent centuries protecting and defending, and then it kills him. Except for the amount of time we actually see him there (in film grammar) and protecting it, it might as well be three weeks where the Doctor was aging super rapidly or something.
Anyways, tl;dr, the whole weight of Trenzelor that we got last season just feels lacking here. It's the doctor versus a couple bad guys, until he regenerates. I can't really see how it goes from (this episode) to the nuclear wasteland we saw before. But that might just me, I was hoping for more from Trenzelor.
I did really love the scene where the Doc basically lays out all the reasons why he can't regen again, just on a meta level, it feels like Moffat starring directly at the fans and going "Yes I know, now shut up and come on the ride."
But otherwise, the episode was solid. Loved Matt Smiths departure, (although the whole thing with seeing Amy kinda got a little indulgent, but hey he's leaving, I'll forgive it. And then yes, I love the instant switch over to Capaldi, made a nice shock moment (especially with the crazy eyes, he seriously looks like he could throttle Clara at any moment after he regens right there); and Matt Smith even set it up in his little Speech. "Just one second and you're changed." or something like that, it's in there.
Kinda curious to see what they're going to do with Gallifrey now, because obviously the search itself is basically over, Gallifrey found them. So is it now going to be a matter of trying to get them back into this universe without starting a war or what? Not sure. Truth be told I was kinda looking forward to the Indiana Doctor idea a lot of people were floating around after DoTD. The Doc out in the universe looking for clues to find Gallifrey and still having fun along the way without the weight of the Moment on him. -shrug- We'll find out I guess.
Last edited by BigDamnArtist (2013-12-26 20:01:05)
Dammit, I hope every episode starts out this way. I want this doctor to be half wide-eyed newborn, half jaded asshole who is constantly perturbed and put out by the fucking timey-wimey-ness of everything and jesus christ he can't even begin to handle it and for fuck's sake why hasn't someone gotten him a bloody scotch already?
Welp...might as well copy/paste my FB comment on the Xmas special:
I'd label my reaction more than disappointing -- rather up there around "tiresome". Even ignoring the in-episode things that made me go "wait, what? That's dumb." it was a kitchen-sink style story to try and tie up the vast amount of convoluted plot turns of the last several years. To me it felt more like they were desperately trying explain away all the nonsense before Capaldi arrived rather than the culmination of some sort of master story arc for Smith.
On that note, I second the assessment that Smith's run has been a hot mess of macguffin after macguffin. I like Matt Smith, but I loathe the silly/immature/selfish/bumbling/whiny/fool of a Doctor he was forced to play. Smith's run had a handful of amazing episodes, and they were almost always when the show decided to treat the Doctor like an actual character, rather than a walking gag-machine.
I'm intrigued by Capaldi and like the idea of him as the Doctor. The thing is, it's not on him at all, I feel. It's on whether the writers/producers of Who decide to take the show back to it's roots as a sci-fi adventure show (well, technically it's roots are an educational kids show, but you know what I mean) instead of the contrived spaceman fairytale they attempted -- and failed, in my opinion -- to pull off with Smith's run.
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