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Aztecs is a good story.  Even heard that there might be a special edition version of it could be done.

I'm just going to let my sister check it out each story & ask if she liked that story.  If she does then I'm likely show her the other DVDs that I have for that particular Doctor. 

RANDOM QUESTION:  Is there a possible DW DVD that you would get even though the story might not be that good but the extras on it still make you want to get it?

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I've been out of the loop on the DVD's for quite some time now, so I have no idea what they include. I'm hoping for season boxsets (Key to Time & Trial of a Time Lord don't count tongue), so hopefully one day I'll be able to own them all.

Speaking of DVD extras, this is by far my favourite:

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Gee, people, that is an awesome thing to do indeed. One story with each doctor from the original series. I didn't even think about this.

As for the revival, I'm gonna follow Teague and start with series 5, then 6, then start again from 1.

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For clarity....

Series 1: Christopher Eccleston as the 9th Doctor with Rose
Series 2: David Tennant as the 10th Doctor, starting at the Christmas special, with Rose (and Mickey)
Series 3: 10th Doctor with Martha
Series 4: 10th Doctor with Donna
specials: 10th Doctor with a big finale creating a clean break
Series 5: Matt Smith as 11th Doctor with Amy (and Rory)
Series 6: 11th Doctor with Amy and Rory (and River)

Warning: I'm probably rewriting this post as you read it.

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Owen Ward wrote:

I've been out of the loop on the DVD's for quite some time now, so I have no idea what they include. I'm hoping for season boxsets (Key to Time & Trial of a Time Lord don't count tongue), so hopefully one day I'll be able to own them all.

Speaking of DVD extras, this is by far my favourite:


It's very unlikely that they'll be box sets for past series from the classic era.  Wouldn't allow them to get as much money if they went away from the usual individual releases.

For extras on a DVD that make it worth getting even if the story isn't that good, the features:
The Gunfighters - "End of the Line" [talks about the final year of William Hartnell's run as the Doctor]
The Krontos - "Second Time Around" [a retrospective look at Patrick Troughton's sting]
Resurrection of the Daleks Special Edition - "Come in Number Five" [retrospective on the 5th Doctor]
Trial of a Time Lord: The Ultimate Foe - "Trial and Tribulations" [another retrospective on the troubled run of Colin Baker's Doctor]

There are others but those are 1s that really come to mind.

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And, really... you shouldn't think seasons when it came to Classic Who. It's all about the individual stories. Well, apart from the first few seasons, when each 30 minute episode had its own title and it was treated as a continuous story where the setting changed every few weeks...

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farley22 wrote:

Aztecs is a good story.  Even heard that there might be a special edition version of it could be done.

Are they going to undo the previous special edition? If memory serves, they "fixed" some of the sets, so you could no longer see where they ended. That's just wrong smile

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Invid wrote:

And, really... you shouldn't think seasons when it came to Classic Who. It's all about the individual stories. Well, apart from the first few seasons, when each 30 minute episode had its own title and it was treated as a continuous story where the setting changed every few weeks...

Yeah, I know. Just thinking more in terms of shelf space really tongue.

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Okay, 5x01 is watched. I'm already loving the hell outta this.

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It only gets better dude. Well...with a couple dips here and there tongue

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Awesome, my mad French friend. Glad you've seen the light. Welcome to the team.

Anyway, on the subject of best episodes to introduce someone to the show with, this AICN article from today is something I massively agree with.

Starting the SHOW? Series 5. Starting someone with a one-episode dousing? Any of these.

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http://uppix.net/6/c/0/0fe59a404f4a365e3570871d064f5.jpg

Those are fucking scary, man.

(also, Jorah Mormont in mah Doctor Who -> :3)

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Although, sort of like the Borg each later use lessened them. Already by the second time the rules were being changed as the plot needed it.

Also, with regard to the 11th Doctor's first season (it's season 31, not 5 smile), I like the theory that it was an attempt to reboot the show, throwing out much of the new stuff RTD had brought in. Season 32 was to get rid of the "mythic" Doctor, the figure known the universe over. Which is interesting as Moffat was the one who did most of the newer stories that created that myth. Almost as if, now that he was running things, he realized, "Whoops!"

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As I posted earlier in the forum, I wanted my sister to watch a story with each of the "classic era" Doctor but something has changed.  After just seeing the 1st ever story "An Unearthly Child" my sister has become hoooked & wants to watch all the other DVDs I have  so she's going through them in order.  While that's good I know that it's going to take her a LONG time to watch everything.  Here's hoping that she survives.

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Invid wrote:

Also, with regard to the 11th Doctor's first season (it's season 31, not 5 smile), I like the theory that it was an attempt to reboot the show, throwing out much of the new stuff RTD had brought in. Season 32 was to get rid of the "mythic" Doctor, the figure known the universe over. Which is interesting as Moffat was the one who did most of the newer stories that created that myth. Almost as if, now that he was running things, he realized, "Whoops!"

Is it a theory? I think it was absolutely an attempt to reboot the show, no question. Moffat may have added stuff in previous series but he wasn't in charge, he could only really add what RTD wanted him to add. Maybe now he's like 'fuck it, my show, my rules'. Although he's Scottish so he quite possibly added 'ya bawbag' or 'ya cunt' at the end of it.

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There was a podcast doing commentaries the day after the show aired in the UK, and that was their theory as the season went on. Daleks brought back into being a proper empire, entire universe rebooted so anything unwanted could now be ignored, etc. They fully expected the return of all the timelords the way it was going.

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Watching the season premiere in one of my school's largest lecture game. Very excited.

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So Asylum of the Daleks just aired over here, what'd you UK folk think?

I loved it, gotta be one of the best series openers yet.

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Eggs...

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Got to see "Assylum of the Daleks" and got to say that it was a good opener.  Not my all time favorite opener but it's up there & it was a good Dalek story when compared to the ones in the past.

With only a few episodes left, the three main actors continued to do good work together .

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Asylum was great. It did come with a very interesting surprise, though:

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with the appearance of Jenna Louise Coleman, which wasn't due until the Christmas special. I'm very interested in how they're going to pull this one off, considering it's the same actor, but a different role.
Also, you should definitely check out "Pond Life" if you haven't already, before viewing Asylum.

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I thought it was pretty good. Being one of the newer converts to the series, I think I just don't like Dalek episodes in general. They're such a lame and un-intimidating enemy that the whole thing comes off unintentionally hilarious.

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I also gotta say that if the guest character from this opener goes on to become the new companion, I have reservations. She's way too precocious and witty. Zoey Deschanel is already pushing the whole quirk factor to the very edge of where it stops being endearing, and this chick is like 3 Zoey Deschanels.

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The Daleks... aren't what they used to be, I agree smile As with any old enemy, you have to try extra hard to do something good and new, and for you new viewers that might not work. Maybe it's time to bring back Davros...

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Invid wrote:

The Daleks... aren't what they used to be, I agree smile As with any old enemy, you have to try extra hard to do something good and new, and for you new viewers that might not work. Maybe it's time to bring back Davros...

Don't think Davros is really needed.  Not let anyway.  For the most part the stories that had the Daleks were entertaining to see.  However there were exceptions, "Daleks in Manhatten" and "Evolution of the Daleks" for example.  At the most they should kept it no more than 1 Dalek focused story per series. 

Honestly, I liked that they were basically not in the previous 1 except that small cameo in the final episode.  Bring back some of the past enemies like Ice Warriors or Zygons.

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I'm going to watch it again to see if my opinion changes, but I really did not like this one. I'm guessing this is something of a minority opinion here, but knowing what Moffat is capable of, I thought this was poorly done.

First off, I don't care much about Dalek stories. I agree completely with bullet3; the Daleks have zero menace for me. After watching Genesis of the Daleks this summer, I've completely lost all interest in the Doctor vs. Daleks dynamic. They're not that scary, they're motives are stupid, and given what the Fourth Doctor did, I find his hatred of them baffling. And with the Eleventh Doctor especially, the Daleks just come off as a ridiculous villain. So yeah, I wasn't super keen on this start to the new series. However...

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...when they explained the concept behind the Asylum, I initially had some hope. I was imagining a Dalek War Zone where crazed Daleks spent all of their time and last reserves of energy destroying each other as well anything that moved. Unfortunately the payoff was no where near that good. I honestly couldn't tell the difference between a crazy Dalek and a regular Dalek aside from a few cobwebs.  It never felt like they were in much peril; it was just a lot of lackluster build up to the Oswin reveal. And if he didn't need that damn bracelet, why on Earth did he wait so long to give it to Amy? I mean other than as a really contrived way for Amy and Rory to resolve their bullshit marital difficulties.

Also, I called that ending from the minute they introduced Jenna-Louise Coleman's character, but I expected them to do a hell of lot more with it.  A Dalek in full possession of all her emotions is what the Kaleds had originally envisioned for themselves before Davros perverted his creations by making them hate-filled nutters. Oswin's dual nature would have been an awesome way to bring some new life into a stale villain. I actually groaned out loud when the Doctor decided to escape with Amy and Rory and leave Oswin behind to die in a massive fiery explosion. What a waste. I still have hope it can evolve in an interesting way, but mostly I'm just disappointed.

Secondly, watching Pond Life and this episode , the treatment of Amy and Rory just irritates the fuck out of me. I know that Steven Moffat has kids, so why can't he seem to write these two as believable parents?

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Asylum of the Daleks feels like it adds a completely unnecessary layer of bullshit to their story. Surely what happened to Melody is enough for them to be sad and in conflict with each other without the melodrama of making Amy infertile. I've said before that I think River Song's backstory is horrible and sad, but what's even worse is that Moffat barely addresses just how awful it is. He just doesn't seem to have any interest in addressing it at all. All we've gotten a few throwaway comments in Let's Kill Hitler, an episode that seem to play the whole damn thing for laughs.

If Amy had even remotely implied that her decision to split with Rory had something to do with what happened to Melody (as opposed to the physical trauma she suffered), I would've been mollified. Instead we get some lame line straight out of a soap opera in which Amy stupidly compares being marginally crueler to Rory than she usually is to the 2000-fucking-years Rory waited on her dumb ass while she was in that box (not to mention the epic lengths he went through to find her and Melody in A Good Man Goes to War). I don't dislike Amy, by any means, but that scene was monumentally retarded.

So, yeah, I wasn't thrilled with this one. I'll still be watching it as the series progresses, though, mostly 'cause I like Matt Smith's Doctor quite a lot. Especially after watching the Fourth Doctor be a complete dick to Leela for no real reason.

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