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IN THIS THREAD, EVERYONE PRESSES PLAY ON THAT VIDEO AND STARTS TYPING A SPEECH. EVERYONE. GO.

We rule.

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Teague Chrystie

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I teared up a bit.

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They called the mission a successful success, in that we decided to land on Mars and did it. Without hiccup. No really, go look. Images are coming in now of MARS. Another planet. Take a moment to appreciate this fact: We are the ONLY humans to have experienced this. To have done *this.* Land on another planet.

We're on Mars. We did it without war. Without pox blankets. Without vested corporate interest. But with a spirit that doesn't define us so much as justifies us. We did it out of Curiosity. And that's pretty rad.

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Teague Chrystie

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Tonight, humanity worldwide reached skyward. Resolved momentarily of petty differences, we realized a dream we've held since the last time we landed some fuckin' thing on another planet. Oh, I'm sorry, we've done this before? It's not speech-worthy that we landed something millions of miles away again? How about a speech about how today, we landed yet another thing on another planet. In the absence of all other outcomes - mutual nuclear annihiliation, inability, lack of awareness, or what's worse, apathy - we pointed idly at a sparkle in the night and said "there." And there we went.

There we've been, there we just went, and there we'll go. Because we can. Tonight may be incrementally more special than other nights, but always remember - the more something is done, the less you can say it's impossible. And tonight we continue to prove that anything we can imagine, no matter how far-reaching, absolutely is possible.

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I have a video response processing through YouTube as we speak.

Eddie Doty

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Today we begin in earnest our search for life on other planets. Life that one day we may be able to communicate with. No one knows the form this life may take, if it will have a face or even a corporeal form, but we do know this: we WILL try to have sex with it.

We will band together as a planet and send a fleet of young men and women from all over the world (except Eskimos) into space to seek out new life and new civilizations. They will carry our banner and our ideals to the far reaches of the solar system and beyond, searching for anything with a hole or protuberance that looks remotely inviting. We pledge to do these things not because they are easy, but because they are hard. We do not know what benefits await us. They may try to eat us, perhaps enslave us, even steal our brains, but we will persevere. Space is out there, and we are going to bang it.

Warning: I'm probably rewriting this post as you read it.

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Teague Chrystie

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well, the two year delay in the MSL program was worth it if it lead to this flawless landing. I had my doubts but JPL pulled it off again. Can't wait for the HD panorama!

America does Mars better than the Europeans and Russians and Japanese, all whose recent missions have failed.

Now that the landing system has been demonstrated to work, send another few MSL v2.0 rovers. for half the cost. Land one in the Valles Marineris. We're not getting any younger here.

not long to go now...

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We have a one-ton car currently touching the surface of Mars. That ridiculously far ball of rock. Goddammit, that's fucking awesome.

(after Zarban's speech, I think I have nothing more to say for the time being)

EDIT : Okay, a bit more.

Today, it has been proved what mankind is capable of. This is the exact kind of things we need to focus on. Knowledge. Curiosity. That's what this is all about. Discovering, exploring the universe surrounding us. I have never been more into astronomy than I am today.

This mission gives me a hint of all that is yet to come. I feel sad knowing that tons of amazing discoveries will be made after I kick the bucket, but when I see how fast spacecraft technologies evolve and space knowledge grows, I truly think the next decades will bring us things we don't even expect yet.

God, I love our universe.

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Zarban wrote:

Today we begin in earnest our search for life on other planets. Life that one day we may be able to communicate with. No one knows the form this life may take, if it will have a face or even a corporeal form, but we do know this: we WILL try to have sex with it.

We will band together as a planet and send a fleet of young men and women from all over the world (except Eskimos) into space to seek out new life and new civilizations. They will carry our banner and our ideals to the far reaches of the solar system and beyond, searching for anything with a hole or protuberance that looks remotely inviting. We pledge to do these things not because they are easy, but because they are hard. We do not know what benefits await us. They may try to eat us, perhaps enslave us, even steal our brains, but we will persevere. Space is out there, and we are going to bang it.

Whatever.

Life is meaningless.

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Saniss wrote:

Today, it has been proved what mankind is capable of.

Before we get too carried away, we did all this (and a lot more) in the 1970s. Viking was TWO craft (similar mass to MSL) that rocketed down to the surface of Mars, both successful, and both lasted a long time. And they were looking for life. 35 years ago.

MSL has the advantage of being mobile, but it's only one and it's more a geologist/chemist than a life-detection mission.

That's to take nothing away from an absolutely awe-inspiring feat of engineering, but in the 1960/70s, there was even more ambition and scale.

Think of how many Curiosity rovers we could have got for the cost of the F-22 Raptor program (a fighter jet that never flew and is now cancelled, at a cost of $67 billion)... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_M … -22_Raptor

not long to go now...

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Think of how many Curiosity rovers we could have got for the cost of the F-22 Raptor program (a fighter jet that never flew and is now cancelled, at a cost of $67 billion)... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_M … -22_Raptor

Don't worry. Poland will buy those 30 years from now. Just like the F-16.

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Saniss wrote:

Today, it has been proved what mankind is capable of.

Before we get too carried away, we did all this (and a lot more) in the 1970s.

I should have added "once again". Amazing space stuff has been made several times before, but it just doesn't get old. I mean, they sent a fucking robot to Mars. Damn.

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avatar wrote:
Saniss wrote:

Today, it has been proved what mankind is capable of.

Think of how many Curiosity rovers we could have got for the cost of the F-22 Raptor program (a fighter jet that never flew and is now cancelled, at a cost of $67 billion)... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_M … -22_Raptor

The competition between the two prototypes for that fighter helped give us the incredible anime movie version of Macross Plus, though, so it was totally worth it.

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But this isn't just Viking with wheels. NASA has sent a whole laboratory up there this time and is going to do some serious science. I think they have very specific suspicions about where life—or evidence of what was once life—may be and are going after it.

Warning: I'm probably rewriting this post as you read it.

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Zarban wrote:

But this isn't just Viking with wheels. NASA has sent a whole laboratory up there this time and is going to do some serious science. I think they have very specific suspicions about where life—or evidence of what was once life—may be and are going after it.

Viking had specific life-detection experiments on board, while MSL doesn't. MSL has much better spectrometers, etc. And it's mobile, but its only one rover, whereas Viking analyzed two separate sites.

So yes, one can quibble that MSL is better overall, but then again it's 35 years later. You'd expect it to. I guess it's a glass half-full or half-empty interpretation. If you told the Viking team back in the 1970s that the next specific life-detection mission won't be for another 40-50 years, I guess they'd be disappointed with that rate of progress. Neil deGrasse Tyson is constantly whining that all we're doing is more-or-less redoing what we did in the past. We'll see. Let's hope that MSL rocks(!) and finds something earth-shattering, so to speak.

If all we get is yet another headline "NASA discovers evidence for past water on Mars'... you know, that's kinda lame after seeing that headline after the last seven missions.

not long to go now...

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Ok, I'm sorry but being a non-American and one who is not really interested in the whole space thing, I needed something else to inspire me-

Despite my non interest in space exploration, I stayed up all night to watch  the Mars landing. Why? Because I needed too. There is so much bad shit happening in the world, I needed something else that was positive, something else to convince me there is something worth it in life. Something 'else'. I hear you ask. Well, I'll get to that in a minute and stop being so bloody impatient. First, I wish to address those who,last night, gave the finger to the UK and 'their' Olympics because the US landed on Mars. Again. Now, I wasn't aware there was a pissng competition in play or indeed that the two situations are comparable in the least. America has held the Olympics too, you know, I'm sure there was a lot of pride then as well. Anyway, my point isn't to scold anyone, my point is this- on Saturday night I (someone who doesn't care about sports) found myself watching the Olympics. Why? Because something special was happening.....

You see, it was on Saturday, Team GB did something spectacular, we actually won a total of six Gold medals in one day. Who cares, you may think, we landed on Mars, bitch! And to that I say, can't both be awesome achievments? You see, it's doesn't matter what nationality you are, this is the sort of shit, we humans should excell at- being fucking awesome! Whether it is winning Gold medals and breaking sporting records or sending a craft and a rover into space, they are all proof that we can do more than just bitch, moan and complain all the time.

And this brings me to my main point. One of the winners of Gold on Saturday was Jessica Ennis, a young woman who works hard at her chosen vocation in life and broke her personal records in three events and got a Gold medal out of it. This girl is seemingly a nice lass who has never been in the tabloids for getting a boob job or for having a sex tape, she gets in the news for believing in herself and doing her best at what she does. That is the type of person our kids should look up to, that is the type of role model young girls should have. Not these vapid wastes of space that get their faces worked on every month and who have their own reality shows. I came to this conclusion this morning when I was watching the NASA video and I saw the women working in the control room. This is the sort of shit, we should be aspiring to, be it excelling at sports or being part of something special and amazing as space exploration. It can be done. Sure, we have 'been' to Mars before, but who's to say we can't go a bit further in the future? We are human, dammit! We can find a way.

So, in conclusion, I not only felt pretty damn proud to be a Brit this weekend, I also felt pretty damn proud to be a human being non-stop. We are capable of so much and more but we should be proud of any of us who achieve something extraordinary no matter how insignificant it feels at the time. Jessica Ennis, Mo Farrah (who kids should aspire to be like too)and all those brilliant NASA folk proved to me this weekend that there is hope yet, that the human race can still bring the goods and cause us to shout 'fuck yeah!' and have some pride in ourselves and what we can accomplish.

Jimmy, out!

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Really liked that JimmyB. I too wish that our western society put the scientists and others who achieve outstanding feats on a pedestal rather than people who appear to be famous for being famous. Which is why I'm really proud that Tim Berners-Lee got that moment of recognition at the Opening Ceremony.

Anyhow, I'm pleased MSL landed successfully but I'm much more interested about what it's going to do over the next few years.

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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Thanks, man. And indeed, we should have more pride in ourselves instead of this bullshit worship of people who have achieved nothing. And, yeah, including Tim Berners-Lee in the ceremony was excellent, especially as a lot of people would have been using the internet to actually watch the ceremony....

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What the hell, I'll wax poetic.

A Single Moment of Triumph

This isn't a single moment of triumph, not one event in a void, separate and different from a host of others. This isn't the first time we've landed on Mars and it won't be the last. This is but one further step, a grand step in a grand pilgrimage of humanity towards an ultimate destiny. A destiny we craft ourselves, moment by moment, forging the impossible from the universe with our minds and our hands. It is a destiny passed onto us from all who came before, from the first to come down from the trees and leave the caves, and it is a destiny we will pass on to those to come, those who will call Mars their home and those who will press even farther. We exist sandwiched between the past and the future, carrying a responsibility handed to us by our ancestors, fulfilling promises we make to our descendants. We are one link in a chain that spans the entirety of time, and today is another link forged. Real success is not a one off venture, not a single moment of triumph. Real success exists on a time line, it is a trajectory. It begins at zero, it starts at your feet with a single step. It takes you out the door and up mountains, across oceans, beyond horizons, and to other worlds. It takes you as far as you can go, as far as your strength, your resolve, your intelligence, your creativity, your curiosity can carry you. It can take you to the moon and Mars, and it can do it again and again and again. And it can take you farther.

This is not a single moment of triumph, it is one of many, part of a trajectory we set for ourselves on our grand pilgrimage through the universe.

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I was lucky enough to see Curiosity on the pad at KSC, and watch it launch from just a few yards away from the iconic countdown clock.  Now it's there, on Mars.  That's pretty damn cool.

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Watching the livestream last night, I felt an inner excitement I've never felt before. I know that this has been done before, in the 70's no less (which blows my mind away.) But seeing an event such as this, as it happens, gives you a feeling I can't even describe. It's a precursor for even more monumental and awe-inspiring events. This is the warm-up for humanity's next leap forward. And to call this amazing piece of technology just a warm up for things to come, well shit. Very soon, we will be going boldly where no man has gone before...

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TheMargarineMan wrote:

Watching the livestream last night, I felt an inner excitement I've never felt before. I know that this has been done before, in the 70's no less (which blows my mind away.)

It is great. I'm so looking forward to all new HD colour and 3D images.

My point about it being done before was not to take anything away from this engineering accomplishment, merely to point out the slowing rate of progress. Let me put it another way... here are three gaps...

1. Wright Brothers to the Spitfire propeller fighter plane
2. Spitfire to Viking
3. Viking to MSL Curiosity

All three gaps are 35 years each. When stated like this, it's sobering that progress has ground to a halt.
When MER landed in 2004, JPL's program was to launch something (orbiter or lander) to Mars every 2 years (that's how often the optimal launch window occurs). So there was MRO and Phoenix. But then MSL got delayed and there's nothing in the pipeline afterwards, so even that modest goal has been abandoned. Since the GFC, most western governments are broke. The glory days of the 1960s and 70s were when income taxes were well above 60% so the government had money to throw at big projects like Apollo and Voyager and Viking, etc. Is the private sector going to take over? Will China take over? You be the judge.

My conclusion: As much as I'd like see it happen, we're not going to see a man on Mars in our grandchildren's lifetime. We might get a sample return, but we already have Mars rocks on Earth.

not long to go now...

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