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Oh man, the Batman theme. I'm pretty sure I can reorchestrate that whole theme from scratch. I blame you, The Animated Series.
Adam West FTW!
Mask Of The Phantasm is the best pre-Nolan Batman film. You can't prove me wrong.
As Hamill is the best Joker.
And I would place Ledger second. Face it. When you read a batman comic, in your head you use the voices of Conroy and Hamill in those roles. That show was and is the best adaptation of batman there has ever been, and ever likely will be. I wish it would just start back up again.
*chin pokes eyes out*
*runs around blind*
2:08:55 is my cited example, but there are others: Is no one going to tell Brian to pronounce it 'Day-us"?
It's a social experiment, I wanna see where he's going with this.
Shut up! I took two years of Latin! That means I can't be wrong!
*sobs*
I have to agree that Conroy is my personal favorite for the Caped Crusader. I liked Keaton as a kid, but not so much nowadays. In regards to him adding a layer of crazy to the character of Bruce Wayne, I just don't give him that much credit -- he does the crazy thing in a lot of roles (Beetlejuice / Dream Team / Multiplicity, etc.).
I like Nolan & Bale's take on Bruce Wayne (although I don't credit them fully with the idea). Wayne is a douchebag shell and the real person is Batman. However, I don't really like Bale's take on Batman (gravelly voice & all). I guess we'll get into that in a few weeks.
I think there's way more going on in this flick than the guys gave it credit for. I also think it's ironic that a familiar criticism is that it's not really about Batman... when I think it is pretty much ALL about Batman.
We have a guy who has pretty much given up being Bruce Wayne. He sits alone in a giant house in the dark just waiting for be Batman again. He only seems feel "normal" when dressed up as a fuckin Bat.
Then the movie throws out as bunch of characters that show him what he could very easily become.
In fact almost all the main characters in the flick are just fractured pieces of Batman's psyche. Distorted versions of what he could easily be if he carries on as is.
The Penguin being the most obvious. Angry and hostile at the real world. (as he fucking should be) Left without parents and taking revenge on what he sees as the same people that put him there. Gotham's upper crust. (which is pretty much a direct mirror to what Batman spends his nights doing).
But then you have Catwoman. She is Batman unleashed Getting off on the sheer mayhem that you can cause as a nutcase in a mask. She spends most of her time just blowing shit up and breaking stuff.
Shit. Even SHRECK is just a dark mirror image of another splinter of Batman's psyche. A Gotham billionaire businessman who wishes to exploit rather than help the city. He is the evil Bruce Wayne.
I dunno. It's far from perfect. I just think there's some cool stuff in that script.
Well yea, that's called writing good villians.
That doesn't mean that it makes up for not having any Batman in your Batman movie.
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