Topic: So. Anybody want to see DIF 3.0?

It's here. Sort of. A little. If you squint.

No, seriously - the website is "done," it's beta time. There are some pages missing - for instance, we need to re-do the About and Blog sections, but for the purposes of beta, here it is. Time for bug reports. The site should work perfectly in every major browser that's even kind-of recent, but we can't really exhaustively test on everything.

It's important to note that the video on this page is not the final Project Halp. This video was made before we even started the offical project, as a proof-of-concept to show to the guy who will be editing the final video. However, this will be the first time any of you will have heard the "full" Down in Front theme, not just the stinger that plays in the episodes. So that's fun.

The site won't be live until Project Halp is complete, which could be a couple weeks. I'd also like to time the roll-out to an Important Movie, so we can get some sharing/tweeting action.

Let's talk about what's here.

First, this should feel like the natural evolution - the big brother - to old DIF. You're greeted by the movie of the week, you can flip backward. But already we meet the first feature - no frames. We have little Hulu arrows to go backward or forward in time. Everything slides and animates as sexily as it can, at almost no time-expense to the visitor. Not to mention that in addition to the usual visible links to all the formats the episode is available in, there's a handy-dandy "permalink" button for grabbing a link to the episode you're looking at. (That will work long after the movie of the week has changed.)

And - I love this - every episode, every week, has a one-click tool for posting on Twitter, Facebook, or Google +. I expect all of us to be using these tools quite a bit in the future. But do not use them now. You can click on them and see what they do, but do not commit a post to your Facebook or Twitter containing the resulting link - obviously the site is not a secret, but we want to hold off on this for purposes of discretion and, more importantly, because the links generated will not work as soon as we officially release the site.

Alright, let's talk about the obvious one - the power-house feature of the redesign, our database.

Zarban (and others) have implored us to allow for sorting, but we didn't want the site to sacrifice sexiness for function. (Nor vice-versa, but a pretty site is important. To me. And Holden. We're fickle.) As such, getting something that was super functional and easy on the eyes took some thinkin.' The result is what you see before you. The default is "release," which means at the top of the stack when you get to the site is the most recent episode. You can scroll down from there, or - to skip to the bottom, just click on "release" again. Rinse and repeat for all of the columns - clicking on the sort type will invert the results.

Title searches by...um, title. Year by year of release. And rating by a rating system we're still working on - eventually it'll refer to number of downloads (potentially with us false-positiving some of our favorites to the top), but there are no plans at this time to build-in user rating. The reason we have a rating column is actually a sly one - we want a new user to come to the site, maybe go "well, I'll listen to the highest rated one," and we get to force a card on them and put our best foot forward. Actually, now that I think about it, we'll probably have a thread where everyone lists their top five favorite episodes and we'll aggregate the results. Or something.

Anyway, last thing is the Project Halp video, which will live where this proof of concept video lives now.




You didn't read this whole thing, did you? You just scrolled down here to get the link. You bastard.

Alright, fine.

Holden Hill presents Down in Front version 3.0.

pimp

Teague Chrystie

I have a tendency to fix your typos.

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That's pretty damn slick. It doesn't fit well in my (1440x900) browser window, tho. I have to scroll down to use the video or catalog applet. And the posters in the browser need to be bigger, I feel.

Warning: I'm probably rewriting this post as you read it.

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Oh that's purdy.

The "About" link timed out for me, and it would be nice if the store could be incorporated with the page instead of opening in a new window.

No donate link?

Sorting by year puts Kill Bill and the DIF anniversary shows at the top, you kids aren't *that* old.

Again. Purdy. If it had a mouth, I would fuck it.

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The blog link still goes to the old blog with the old layout, and the about link isn't working for me either, but hey. Beta.

Those are the only bugs I've seen so far, mostly because I've been sitting here just appreciating how great it looks. My favorite thing is the new episode-sorting system. EDIT: However, when I scroll to the bottom of the sidebar, the link at the very bottom is partially hidden and it can't be clicked.

FURTHER EDIT: An "Important Movie" is coming, eh? Can't wait!

Last edited by Doctor Submarine (2011-08-30 01:57:12)

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I'm amused that one of the first things in my post was "the about and blog pages don't work right," and yet. Anyway.  big_smile

I'm glad you guys like the look of it. Things like the bottom-of-the-sidebar and the donate button are really helpful, and Kill Bill and the anniversary shows are too new and not-dated, respectively, hence that error. I'll update the database so they're in their place.

As for the posters, I like the size they're at. tongue

Teague Chrystie

I have a tendency to fix your typos.

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Sorting by title puts 2010 Moby Dick second, did someone plan this? =P

The layouts looks great and the current video is slick, my girlfriend thinks so and everything.

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I don't always read long posts, but when I do, I skim them. And then get corrected and go back and read it again.

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Teague wrote:

I'm amused that one of the first things in my post was "the about and blog pages don't work right," and yet. Anyway.  big_smile

"Redo" isn't time-out damnit!

Unrelated: Can you ask Holden to add this?

Zarban wrote:

And for good measure.....

http://www.zarban.com/brian-finifter-star-trek.jpg

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What's Google +?

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Aren't you already on it?

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It was a joke about how everybody has already forgotten about it. neutral

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Definitely liking the look, the one "bug" that I'm seeing at first glance is when you scroll down the the bottom of the archive, in either of the sorting methods, that it seems to maintain the "shadow" effect of the scrolling, so you are only able to see the top half of the very last entry.

And while thinking of it, the current temp video, which was VERY AWESOME, even if temp, is on your (Teague's) vimeo account, so once its played, it offers up that one, and two more of your videos as "next", for the final edit, possibly creating a separate DIF account, or tailoring which videos queue up afterwords. ... not that there's anything wrong with pimping your own demo reel.

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No, I just haven't made a DIF Vimeo yet. I'm thinking about making the video either much longer, or having several of them that you can watch through, though, and that little "related videos" feature would be cool for that.

Teague Chrystie

I have a tendency to fix your typos.

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Will you guys let me know what browser/version you guys using? I've noticed that issue in Chrome, but not others so far.

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Re: So. Anybody want to see DIF 3.0?

the scrolling issue I'm seeing in my default browser, which is Chrome (v13 i guess as it autoupdates) Firefox v5 seems to show the bottom entry fine, bringing the bottom just above the gradient. and in IE v9 I get almost a full entry's spacing from the bottom, so its fine as well, if slightly different.

I just jumped on my android tablet, and the default browser is able to scroll down all the way as well.

Hope that helps, cursed varied browser standards.

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Re: So. Anybody want to see DIF 3.0?

I got lazy and just added extra height to the spacer at the bottom of that container if it detected Chrome as the browser. Yay for cheating. It seems to work for me. Let me know if it comes up again.

"Most people don't even know what sysadmins do, but trust me, if they all took a lunch break at the same time they wouldn't make it to the deli before you ran out of bullets protecting your canned goods from roving bands of mutants."

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I picked that Blob clip too! Great minds and all that  big_smile

Anyway, the new site loks great  smile

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Possibly out of scope, but you can't scroll through the episodes on an iPhone. Not sure if this is a requirement though.

Playback however, works a treat.

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FixedR6 wrote:

Possibly out of scope, but you can't scroll through the episodes on an iPhone. Not sure if this is a requirement though.

Playback however, works a treat.

same thing on my android htc

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You can't scroll because, well, phone aren't designed to do scrolling like that. I've had some success just tapping on the scrollbar for it and getting it work (Droid 2, btw), but most likely, I'll just do something special for mobile browsers later on down the line.

"Most people don't even know what sysadmins do, but trust me, if they all took a lunch break at the same time they wouldn't make it to the deli before you ran out of bullets protecting your canned goods from roving bands of mutants."

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Teague wrote:

No, I just haven't made a DIF Vimeo yet. I'm thinking about making the video either much longer, or having several of them that you can watch through, though, and that little "related videos" feature would be cool for that.

That's a cool idea. If I were new to the site, I'd love to see a short clip of recent DIFs then, when that ends, a selection of three or so equally short slips from the past.

The video portion was really stylish, but maybe TOO stylish. It's hard to even see what's going on in the movie at times.

And the actual final selection of clips needs to be thought out carefully (which I'm sure you're doing).
  - A couple of "How do we fix this?" clips would be good, because that's so typical of DIF. Edit the remarks to eliminate false starts and get to the point of the remark (Gremlins clip).
  - Mix it up a bit more (too many Michael comments in a row).
  - And Trey's Columbine comment is NOT a good place to start. LOL (If you DO use it, it belongs at the end, and keep the "send your hate mail to..." bit, because that's actually useful on-brand information to end with).

/communications consultant

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Holden wrote:

I got lazy and just added extra height to the spacer at the bottom of that container if it detected Chrome as the browser. Yay for cheating. It seems to work for me. Let me know if it comes up again.

If I scroll to the bottom in Firefox 6, I still see Wild Wild West in shadow and unselectable.

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The hell? It did that to me the first time as well, then every time I refreshed it, it was fine.

Y U NO FOLLOW STANDARDS CONSISTENTLY?!

"Most people don't even know what sysadmins do, but trust me, if they all took a lunch break at the same time they wouldn't make it to the deli before you ran out of bullets protecting your canned goods from roving bands of mutants."

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Just added a search function to the archive on the left. It's a live search, too! No pesky buttons to hit.

"Most people don't even know what sysadmins do, but trust me, if they all took a lunch break at the same time they wouldn't make it to the deli before you ran out of bullets protecting your canned goods from roving bands of mutants."

-- http://stilldrinking.org/programming-sucks

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Search feedback

  • The search box sure is handy, could it be displayed all the time instead of requiring a mouse click?

  • Having the search link in the "sort by:" filter box looks cramped.

  • Searching for a film title (e.g Jaws), getting a single result, and then scrolling the mouse wheel in the results pane loses the single result so you have to search again.

  • Staying with the Jaws theme, typing the first two letters displays unexpected items. A search string of "ja" returns the following results: Jaws, The Abyss, The Mist, Matrix Reloaded, The Terminator.

Last edited by Dave (2011-09-01 10:04:12)

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