Topic: Event Horizon
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I'd consider this the least awful of Paul "Wet Shits" Anderson's movies.
Wet Shits?
I love that post.
Ya, this is his best. His Death Race remake and Soldier are both also pretty watchable.
You know what? I love Event Horizon. Scared me hardcore back when I saw it at the age of 17. You know what else? I really enjoyed Soldier, too. I think DiF should definitely cover that movie at some point. Did you know it's unofficially connected to Blade Runner?
I think Alien is a great movie. In defense of the younger generation, though, you're almost always going to give a film more slack when you're watching it in a theater. You're completely focused on the screen, get to take in the great cinematography, have already invested X amount of time and money, etc. etc.
I have always been a defender of this movie, ever since I saw it in the cinema back in '97 (I would have been 20-ish). It's the best film Anderson has directed but is a sad reminder that he hasn't done much good since. Although I second Death Race and Soldier being enjoyable too.
Altho I like Resident Evil, everything Anderson has done feels mushy and incomplete. Event Horizon comes close to feeling fully realized, but I really don't like the whole Hellraiser-on-the-Nostromo premise. I don't find it interesting or scary.
For comparison purposes, if you want to see how far Anderson has fallen since the mid 90s, I give you this fight from Resident Evil 4:
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Marvel at how literally the entire fight is done in gratuitous slo-motion for NO REASON.
Last edited by bullet3 (2012-10-15 16:45:38)
I resent this film so much. It should have been awesome, and it was bullshit.
Far from perfect, but I do enjoy this film. Check out Pandorum to see how bad Paul W.S. (producer) sci-fi can be. Actually, don't check it out.
Last edited by Josh (2012-10-15 20:18:41)
Awww, I have a real soft-spot for Pandorum. I love the concept, love the ship design, love where the story goes. If it didn't have such shitty over-editing and out-of-place martial arts, it would be a bit of a b-movie classic.
I rather liked Pandorum as well. I only checked it out to see if it was in any way similar to Ark - they shot that movie months after we shot Ark, but it was released before Ark debuted online. I was hoping we weren't accidentally similar in too many ways, since then we'd look like a ripoff.
But other than the "sleeper ship" setting, Pandorum and Ark are pretty different - not to mention that Pandorum came and went pretty fast and didn't make much of an impression.
So I was just able to enjoy Pandorum for what it was, and I actually liked it quite a bit. It shares a sensibility with Event Horizon, but without the mystical overtones - and it's got a number of creepy/scary moments. I have quibbles with some of it, but overall it pretty much worked for me.
My memory of Event Horizon from watching it once in the cinema is that it seemed like eight-year-olds had written it, eight-year-olds who had just wet their pants repeatedly when watching Alien and Hellraiser and Evil Dead, eight-year-olds that would think pact with the Devil stories were original, eight-year-olds who threw every scary thing they'd ever seen in their short, excitable lives at a blanket, and found all of it sticking.
Dude, if that's the case, then those eight-year-olds are pretty hardcore and I wanna buy each one of those intense little fuckers a beer!
They'd be in their 20s now anyway, so it's actually be ok to buy them drinks
Love the set design / shot composition:
Also love the Godfather-esque closing-door shot that closes the film.
The layering also reminds me of this shot from Alien I saw featured on Jim Emerson's blog:
Great commentary guys. Interesting discussion about when the aesthetic changed from the future being shiny new & optimistic, to a run-down dystopian look. Somewhere in the mid-1970s was the demarcation line (Star Wars, Alien, Mad Max). Suddenly there was a pessimism - the oil price shocks and economic stagflation, Vietnam vets returning home, the escalating threat of the Hydrogen bomb, DDT & the environmental movement, the end of the Apollo program, etc). The future wasn't looking so rosy.
Good call categorizing Event Horizon together with Friday 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street, rather than other sci-fi films of the period (e.g. Supernova, Sphere, Red Planet, Mission to Mars)
It'd be a shame if the genre of sci-fi (which is supposed to be about noble things like humanity's future) gets debased to monsters that go 'booo' or teen superheroes. Genuine sci-fi in the traditional sense is getting rarer.
Also, would it be fair to label this a Christian movie, in the sense that it's set in a Christian universe where Hell actually exists? Just like Indiana Jones 3, Legion, The Exorcist, and Ben Hur, are "Christian" movies, where supernatural phenomena from the Bible manifest themselves. Raiders of the Lost Ark wouldn't technically count as Christian as the Ark is from the Old Testament, so it's at least a Jewish movie.
I've been wanting to a hear a commentary for this for a long long time. Event Horizon contains possibly my favorite set-up in the history of cinema. There's a spaceship, it was experimenting with some sort of new warp engine and it's been missing for seven years. It has suddenly reappeared and we're going to go check it out. It's the perfect set-up for my favorite subgenre of film: "we're in space and we're fucked" sci-fi. Other movies include Alien, Moon, 2001, and The Black Hole.
Sadly, as much as I love the set up, I find the direction and the third act to be very lackluster to say the least. Once Sam Neill starts going around killing people, it just becomes way too cheesy for my liking. Also, that moment early on where he screams after seeing his dead wife in a dream:
There is no fucking way that was the best take.
I so want to see the uncut version....
If I'm remembering correctly this film was BUTCHERED by the MPAA. There original cut of the film is approximately 45 minutes longer, but due to the poor reception the film received the uncut version has never seen the light of day. I remember Fangoria did a fairly extensive run down of the missing material, I think in the long cut we saw much more of the original crew's journey into and back from hell.
That quick montage of gruesome cuts was significantly longer, possibly not even a montage.
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