Re: #44 - Disney Buys Lucasfilm
Neil Patrick Harris as Grand Admiral Thrawn.
Just sayin'.
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Neil Patrick Harris as Grand Admiral Thrawn.
Just sayin'.
They've said it'll be an original story, no Thrawn trilogy (thank god)
Not the point. Imagine NPH as Grand Admiral Thrawn for a second.
I think your metaphoric scenario of your high school love coming back in town is spot on.
This is how I would describe my feelings about it:
Imagine your dream girl moves in next door, during your freshman year of high school. You become friends, then best friends. One night you guys are hanging out, then you kiss, and then you loose your virginity together. From then on you're inseparable, and everyone comments about what a great couple you make. But then during your senior year she starts to change. She tries LSD for the first time, and wants you to try it, too. She says it will take you places you've never been before. All of sudden, its like she's not the same person; dressing differently and hanging out with a different crowd. Finally you catch her making out with a college guy at a party, and you call it quits. You go your separate ways after graduation. Years later you come home after having other life experiences, and life is good. You still remember her fondly, maybe looking at her picture occasionally, but you've moved on. Then all of a sudden some crazy rumors start flying around, that she is back in town. Some say she got beaten up by her last boyfriend, some say she worked as a stripper for awhile, but the biggest and loudest rumor is that she wants to see you.
SO... I feel like I'm about to get in the car and drive to one of our old make out spots to meet up with her, and there are equal possibilities of her being beautiful like you remember her, she wants to make amends, and hump your brains out, OR she could be scarred up, on the run from the cops, and wants to con you for drug money. Yeah, that about sums it up.
Last edited by FireFighter214 (2012-10-31 17:41:36)
Great emergency episode. The DIF format is perfect for discussions like this. A+
Where do organisations like 501st Legion fit within the Disney owned franchise?
[EDIT] I guess the 501st answered this themselves on their site.
We have a long-standing and valuable relationship with Lucasfilm, and a solid foundation with Disney through our appearances at Star Wars Weekends and in support of Star Tours. We are looking forward to continuing our relationship with LFL and Disney and are equally excited by the possibility of future opportunities for the expansion of the Star Wars universe worldwide.
Last edited by AshDigital (2012-11-01 07:14:30)
Good episode, weird scenario. It's weird how much of my childhood Disney now owns. Their original animated films they actually made, then they bought the Muppets, they bought Pixar, now Star Wars and Indiana Jones... They just need Ghostbusters and it's all there.
Something that I haven't seen a lot of discussion on, and it wasn't addressed in the episode; Disney owns Skywalker Sound and Industrial Light and Magic now. What, if anything, does this mean for them?
And you guys joked about Lucas finding out he has cancer and trying to sort everything out before he dies... But is it just me, or does he seem really off in that Future of Star Wars Movies video Owen shared?
fireproof78 wrote:Older post on Cracked.com but a fun and interesting read, given what happened:
http://www.cracked.com/article/167_5-re … -prequels/We'll finally get that Jar Jar origin story we've all been waiting for.
Not only that, but we will also get the Jar Jar Christmas Special
After giving this some thought, I am, like most, cautiously optimistic. It could be the shot in the arm the franchise needs to get out of the doldrum that Brian was talking about, with "The Clone Wars" and a new generation being introduced to the universe through that show and not the films, and the stagnation that could occur. Disney could take this universe in several directions, and it is crazy to think of the possibilities.
But, the EU is more than likely out and not just because of Disney's releases. Lucas himself considered the EU to be in a parallel universe to his own, and there are the usual levels of canon with movies being the top tier and the rest being subjected to change. Well, everything is subject to change in the Lucas world, but I find it funny reading a quote from an interview about EU events after the OT:
TOTAL FILM: "Are you happy for new Star Wars tales to be told after you're gone?"
LUCAS: "I've left pretty explicit instructions for there not to be any more features. There will definitely be no Episodes VII–IX. That's because there isn't any story. I mean, I never thought of anything. And now there have been novels about the events after Episode VI, which isn't at all what I would have done with it. The Star Wars story is really the tragedy of Darth Vader. That is the story. Once Vader dies, he doesn't come back to life, the Emperor doesn't get cloned and Luke doesn't get married..."
Now, obviously, this is all up in the air, but I wonder what happened to make him change his mind about sequels.
Good old George lol
Last edited by fireproof78 (2012-10-31 18:55:13)
I wonder what happened to make him change his mind about sequels.
I think it may have been the 4 Billion dollars.
fireproof78 wrote:I wonder what happened to make him change his mind about sequels.
I think it may have been the 4 Billion dollars.
LOL
I meant originally. I thought his original plan was to do sequels not prequels.
Fireproof78,
He probably didn't want to fight with the EU that's out after episode 6 and the questions about the Thrawn storyline.
Last edited by Josh (2012-10-31 19:23:18)
Ok. I know there’s an overwhelming amount to talk about when it comes to this craziness...but I’d like to address only one thing: Who should/will direct the next Star Wars.
The 3 most names that immediately come to mind: Joss Whedon, JJ Abrams, and Brad Bird.
Joss is already doing Avengers 2, which honestly I feel is a production that “needs” Whedon more to be successful. I could name several people (I am, in fact) that could handle a good SW movie, but I’m not sure I think anyone other than Whedon could pull off Avengers 2. I want them both to be good, so that's a sacrifice I might be willing to make. (ducks)
Abrams has the ST franchise already, and I’m not sure his “feel” meshes well with the actual Star Wars universe, no matter how similar Star Trek (2009) is to the Star Wars formula. I just don’t see it happening without the idea being a “revamping” of SW, which I don’t think is what Disney will be aiming for.
One fun thought: If Disney does take this down the Bond/Potter road, constantly changing directors and tone, then I could easily see both Joss and JJ doing SW movies down the road…and how exciting is that possibility?
For Episode 7 though, Brad Bird seems to be the favorite in my mind. He’s established himself as a great live-action director, is already in-house for Disney, and his background at Pixar lends itself well to the “tone” SW would likely be going for. If I was in the meeting, he’d be the name I’d go for if Joss didn’t have time (likely) and the pie-in-the-sky name I’ll drop later doesn’t work out.
Mentioning Avengers above, let’s not forget Jon Favreau could be on the list as well. Similar to Whedon/JJ, he’s sort of got his corner of the universe, so I’m not sure the odds. I’m also not sure if he’s as capable as others on the list, but it’s worth tossing his name out as a possibility since he’s definitely got big-budget-action on his resume.
Next up, Matthew Vaughn. Seems like a good backup option if Brad Bird doesn’t work. Solid and safe.
Ok. So. Pie in the sky time…
Peter ‘Effin’ Jackson. The Hobbit is done filming, in post, and there’s nothing on the immediate horizon for him. If what I read is true, and there is already a story framework in place for a full trilogy of 7/8/9, how about reintroducing a new generation to Star Wars with the most epic Space Opera ever. Go big or go home. Clearly he has the ability, in character, action, and technological experience (not to be overlooked). Disney could use Jackson to firmly establish the universe, then transition to the “Bond” style movies afterwards, building on that foundation.
Quick note on something I heard on the intermission…Rian Johnson. Sorry, no. He’s great, and Brick is one of my Top 3 favorite movies of all time, but he doesn’t do action well. He’s a film-noir guy at heart, building tension/suspense – think of the shootout or chase scenes in Brick. In interviews he talks about how he wanted to ground Looper and its action sequences with a very tangible/real feeling – that’s not SW. I’d rather him work on character pieces that will keep me on pins and needles, rather than directing space battles.
Lastly, I assume Nolan’s name has to be in the hat simply because he’s Nolan. He’s obviously a solid director, but the larger-action scenes of Dark Knight & Inception really felt like they got away from him a bit. I’d worry that something as large and fantasy based as Star Wars wouldn’t be something he’d be great at.
Oh oh, and also Gore Verbinski. He’s got the family-friendly-action cred and Disney in from Pirates. I should write more, but if the script is there I think he’d be up there on my list…Rango being a better example of what I’d hope to see.
From those listed, my hopeful order:
Jackson, Whedon, Bird, Verbinski, Vaughn, Abrams, Favreau, Nolan, Johnson
Now, obviously, this is all up in the air, but I wonder what happened to make him change his mind about sequels.
Good old George lol
There's the old quote from the Starlog Star Wars 10th anniversary special, when asked why Luke never got a girlfriend:
"You haven't seen the last three movies."
So, Luke may finally be getting some!
Last edited by Invid (2012-10-31 22:18:17)
Ope, yeah. Forgot about Verbinksi. He's probably a very likely candidate.
Please, please hide Tim Burtons card in the Disney rollo-desk.
Ope, yeah. Forgot about Verbinksi. He's probably a very likely candidate.
I'll say Verbinksi directing a script by Orci and Kurtzman.....
Question: who would we be ok with as a new composer?
The only one I can think of is Michael Giacchino. Which brings us right back to J.J. and Bird.
Question: who would we be ok with as a new composer?
The only one I can think of is Michael Giacchino. Which brings us right back to J.J. and Bird.
Oh god, John Williams might not even be alive when this movie comes out. I really don't want to think about that.
Oh god I hope they don't use Giacchino (last thing I need is him fucking up both the Star Trek and Star Wars themes). Ideally Williams is around for another 20 years to keep the ship going. If not him, then I'd settle for another veteran who knows their way around a memorable score, like a Silvestri, or a David Arnold.
If they have to go for younger blood, I'd love for them to use John Powell, How to Train Your Dragon is the most classic-John-Williams-sounding score I've heard in the last few years.
Last edited by bullet3 (2012-10-31 22:46:11)
Or if they want to shake things up, how about Howard Shore? A lot of his music is up to John Williams' standards, but he has a pretty different feel.
Giacchino. End of story, has to be Giacchino.
I will fight Bullet to the death. And he's a bullet.
Hahaha, Teague, I respect you (you certainly know your way around music much more than I do),
but you're right that we'll never agree on this one.
I'm prepared to change my mind if I hear a large-scale, thematic, memorable, sci-fi/fantasy score from the man, but so far it's all been disappointment. Star Trek, John Carter, Super 8, all duds.
I've said it before, Giachinno is a brilliant composer, but he can't write "big" music to save his life, he's great for thrillers and mid-scale stories, but not the guy you want on Star Wars.
Last edited by bullet3 (2012-10-31 23:07:05)
Incredibles wasn't "big"?
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