TheGreg wrote:fireproof78 wrote:Yeah, I may be an overly optimistic guy (maybe) but my point was i GL's mind, his movies were the canon, then the EU was part of another canon, and he called it an alternate universe. So, his perspective was that movies were essentially his canon-so, the owner of the franchise, in my opinion (feel free to disagree
) can declare it canon. That's my take and perhaps I am wrong.
I see that you're taking the view that canon flows from authority, and that you invest GL with a certain level of authority based on his role in the franchise. I think this is very similar to the situation that you see in the religious community (which is of course the origin of the word), where some people invest the Pope, or some other religious leader or group, with the authority to define which texts are canonical. Obviously there is a lot of disagreement with that, especially within the protestant church, where the ability of a structure or individual to make decisions on behalf of the community is much more controversial.
I think I take the view of some of the more progressive protestant churches that what material is canon is a matter of conscience for the individual. It's not something that an authority figure can dictate. Furthermore, I think it it's possible for an authority figure to loose the moral right to exert authority. I would be more inclined to allow GL a role as Pope of Star Wars if he had shown more commitment to the values and principles that informed the OT.
You make an interesting analogy and your point is well said.
It may be that GL is no longer the Pope of Star Wars (insert random Space Pope joke here) but that does not change his view on canon, that to him, the movies and what he does are it, but the EU and other books are there and that's great, but they do not affect him.
In all honesty, if GL were writing the sequels to the OT Luke would not be married, the Emperor doesn't come back and much of what happens in many beloved books is simply going to be in books. That's not my words-it was from an interview GL did.
So, while SW canon is subjective for the fans, the material used for movies is up to Lucasfilm. They are not bound by EU at all.
I good for-instance of this is Asajj Ventress' species name. Originally conceived as a Rattaki (yes, I know that) the Nightsisters Trilogy in "The Clone Wars" establishes that both her and Darth Maul's race were the same and from the same planet. That changed what was originally written about the characters.
To further your church analogy a little bit, while Protestants do not recognize the same canon as Catholics or the authority of the Pope, most Protestant denominations have a common thread of "sola Scriptura" scripture alone as their canon. There are disagreements about some traditions and other interpretations, but the authority of canon is usually consistent.
So, I regard the OT and PT as "canon" with other things being up for interpretation and Lucasfilm being able to decide what ultimately is movie material.
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