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Just gonna leave this here.

https://i.imgur.com/xVBhWwE.png

Oh, it's definitely true that piggybacking off old media isn't a new thing, it's the saturation of it now that I take issue with. Yeah, I grew up with the prequels, but that was also the age of Pixar releasing original stories left and right, the tail end of the Disney Renaissance, Dreamworks' first stages (for better or worse), the Spy Kids series, and a bunch of other stuff. Not to pass judgment on whether or not all of that was good—I'm not a fan of the latter two bits I mentioned—but there was a plethora of options. (And that doesn't even count stuff like LotR and Potter, which were adaptations but with the exception of the dubious LotR animation way back in the 70s had never been put on the screen before.)

And sure, a lot of the Disney Renaissance stuff drew on pre-existing stories, but the difference there is they indisputably made them their own thing—drastically redrawn plots, the musical format, etc. With the exception of Maleficent, the new Disney remakes started out trying to tell new stories to varying degrees, but then Beauty and the Beast got them a huge gross for being a direct remake of the old movie with some window dressing, and now Aladdin and The Lion King have gone the same way, and The Little Mermaid looks like it will be too. The approach is just "That thing that made me happy when I was a kid, exactly, but with just enough change that I can pretend it's a new interpretation."

EDIT: Also, I really don't wanna come off as being "These kids today, get off my lawn!!!" and hope that's not the vibe I'm projecting. The kids aren't at fault at all—it's the way the system currently works that's at fault, as well as all of us adults to some extent for feeding it.

I'm kind of the exact opposite—I think it's horrifying that we're furthering a media-illiterate culture in which old movies are erased and just repackaged for newer generations. For a number of reasons:

1.) It's pretty much ruined original storytelling on a big scale. What are kids these days growing up on in terms of hit movies? Outside of original Pixar movies and . . . Frozen?, it's all repackagings of stuff their parents grew up on. Disney remakes, superhero adaptations, Star Wars sequels, new Harry Potter movies. Instead of having the chance to develop their own cultural loves which they then pass on to kids, they're getting fed this regurgitated mass of our nostalgia catering to us.

Not that I'm against showing kids movies you loved growing up at all! But there's a fundamental difference between doing that in an environment where they have their own movies to fall in love with and making it the only game in town. Especially when the new versions being shoved in their faces are, like that Lion King clip, devoid of care, artistic intent, and resonance.

2.) The fact that you showed Back to the Future to your son and he loved it is proof positive that new generations showing distaste for "old" media isn't something that's inevitable. It just takes an environment that's willing to expose them to those old things with respect and enthusiasm, the way Eddie's dad did with him when he was growing up. Making inferior versions of the old media to cater to modern trends and then selling it all over again isn't cultivating a respect for old stories; it's implicitly saying they're "inferior" and need to be updated to suit the latest fashion, whether or not that's actually better. It's not actually helping people to love old stories, it's exacerbating their being steamrolled over. It's as if someone were to try to remake Citizen Kane in color with 3D and shaky-cam and then say "All we're doing is helping this story find its footing with a modern audience!" All that does is condescend both to the modern audience and old movies.

https://media.giphy.com/media/6elaldF6BDY40/200.gif

(Damn, this doesn't really work when the GIF I'm replying to is on the previous page. tongue )

Oh hey, remember Teague's Disney Cinematic Universe bit from earlier in this thread? From Polygon's review:

SPOILER Show

More disturbing is how, for all the realism, Disney still optimizes the corporate synergy. Timon and Pumbaa’s fourth-wall-breaking shtick (“Every time that I fa—” “Hey, not in front of the kids!”) worked for every age group. Timon and Pumbaa performing 40 seconds of “Be Our Guest” is insidious.

I promise to stop posting about Disney specifically for a while because it's starting to be a broken record, but it's just . . . this is the future of moviemaking. Empty automatons that don't even pretend to be anything more than a corporation whoring out its previous works of art for a buck, that are by any objective measure ugly as sin, that cynically rub it in your face that all they are is exercises in branding . . . and still make a billion dollars. We're approaching the nostalgia event horizon.

*pops head in*

The new Lion King is an utter abomination and it's still going to gross a billion dollars.

This is fine.

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I have loved this The Thing poster for ages. Just discovered that prints are available and was financially irresponsible.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-1WbQYWsAAgR-6.jpg:large

(Yes I know it misspells Campbell's name but everything else is too fucking cool.)

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It was enjoyable! The clone stuff never bothered me--I agree with the previous comments in this thread saying Brian was confusing what he wanted the movie to be with what it actually is. Lots of it is derivative but the production design and Rockwell were as good as promised.

I really want to know what the two stories about you that Eddie conflated into you doing backup vocals for William Shatner are tongue

EDIT: Jesus phone keyboard

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Just saw this one for the first time and am currently enjoying a "new" DiF as a result. Had my mind minorly blown when Dorkman referenced "that non-Avatar 2 movie Cameron is working on now, Battle Angel Alita" . . . in 2010. Man takes his sweet time, don't he?

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https://img.moviepostershop.com/between-the-lines-movie-poster-1977-1020192807.jpg

Approximately a 9.8 on the Goldblum scale. Fun bit of newspaper-movie fluff that coasts on its performances, of which his is easily the standout; also notable as one of exactly sixteen American feature films directed by a woman in the 1970s.

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Spending the afternoon trying to find as many wildly different variations on "In Walked Bud" as possible. For science.




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Another piece of Stokes history is finally getting a Blu-Ray release!

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Nah, a Bogoth is what Lupin keeps in a cabinet to scare students.

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Holy shit, I saw her tweet that but skimmed and didn't see she was talking about you. That looks AMAZING, well done.

Not necessarily, unfortunately. If enough congresspeople aren't present then a vote can't be held.

It's somehow not the biggest story in the country right now, but a group of Oregon Republican senators are so terrified to vote on a climate change bill that they've fled, teamed up with white supremacist militia groups, and are threatening to kill anyone who tries to return them to the capitol.

Walkouts are not unique to Republicans. Democrat lawmakers fled their states in 2003 and 2011 to prevent votes on redistricting and curbing union rights, The Daily Beast previously reported. Oregon has a long history of senate walkouts, including a four-day walkout in May, when Republicans refused to vote on a tax package that would fund schools. They returned to session with the agreement that they would not walk out again.

But this walkout also came with violent threats. Multiple senators are believed to have fled to Idaho, with right-wing militias flocking to their aid. While leaving the statehouse before the walkout, Republican Sen. Brian Boquist implied that police officers who pursued them should be ready to die. “Send bachelors and come heavily armed,” Boquist warned police in a televised interview shortly before his walkout. “I’m not going to be a political prisoner in the state of Oregon. It’s just that simple.”

State police said they were aware of Boquist's remarks, but were not commenting on them. Boquist and his colleagues are supported by several right-wing militias that made more explicit threats.

After Oregon Gov. Kate Brown called on state troopers to return the lawmakers to the capital, the paramilitary group the Oath Keepers suggested violence against her.

“Gov. Brown, you want a civil war, because this is how you get a civil war,” the Oath Keepers wrote on their public Facebook page. Beneath the post, Oath Keeper fans suggesting hanging, arresting, or taking up arms against Brown.

The militia threats are basically holding the legislature hostage; sessions have been canceled due to other groups like the Three Percenters (who were involved in the Bundy fiasco) threatening to show up. Oh, and the official Oregon GOP Twitter account is a fan of this. (To be clear, the photo they tweeted is actually of an entirely separate event because of course.)

On an immediate level, my reaction is "If this happened on a television show we would all say the writers had lost it." My follow-up reaction is that if this continues to work and no one faces any consequences, Republicans will start doing this in any state that has a Dem majority.

This is the way the world ends, etc. Wheeeeeeeee

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Not cool so much as hilarious: Tom Hanks is a god. https://twitter.com/MarceloJPico/status … 5775775744

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https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51-XenSE-BL._SY679_.jpg

Has its moments, mostly in the form of some very funny gags, but it feels like the mostly effusive praise is due to our collective refusal to admit this franchise is now less than perfect.

The whole exercise is curiously empty. Forky as both a character and a concept is rife with possibilities (for those who haven't been following the marketing, he's a spork who's horrified to gain sentience after he's made into a toy by the gang's new kid), but any attempt at an arc for him is just abandoned after the first act. Most of the old supporting cast is sidelined in favor of new faces, getting one or two (or even zero) lines apiece, and even Buzz is granted only the most eye-rolling, cursory development. The ending is being lauded as waterworks-inducing, but for me it was where the seams streched to the breaking point; the emotional manipulation is so obvious, the final lines so perfunctory, that it felt like cynicism more than anything.

Also, while I'm sure part of it is simply that I grew up on the original films and not this one, the aesthetic is... really ugly. It's a Frankenstein of photorealistic glitz combined with the classic blocky, stylized look of the toys, one that constantly feels at odds with itself.

Randy Newman remains the GOAT, and Tom Hanks does his damnedest. Keanu for president.

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Ooh, this is hard.

Is there a God and why?

I am pretty damn sure that my own contributions here do not hold up, but the thread as a whole was just a perfect example of the forum at its best: a lengthy and somewhat heated debate that never devolved into a flame war and ended with dirty limericks.

The Hyacinth Disaster
Most of this got eaten by the DiFpocalypse, but it was so fucking cool watching Writhyn take this all the way through to completion. The finished product is the result of behind-the-scenes labor that is now lost to history, but said product is still awesome so all's well that ends well.

Obscure personal questions
Couple this one with The Table, which basically serves the same function. I never get tired of the weird/amusing/profound little stories this community has buried inside us.

Announcement: Goodnight, Goodnight!
How the fuck was this four years ago Jesus fucking Christ.

Um . . . Shia?
Consistently forget the events this thread is a reaction to ever happened until I periodically go through old forum posts and rediscover the madness.

EDIT: Whoops, forgot the next prompt. Top five episodes of television. Just individual episodes—the context of the series doesn't have to matter.

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As if the world needed further proof that androgyny is good for the soul, a before/after for y'all:

https://i.imgur.com/wwJgF8b.jpg

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Bump!

Starting fresh—top five favorite foods to make.

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It's also victim of the new directive where apparently every movie poster has to be a gradient from blue to red.

https://fanbolt-fanbolt.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/aladdin-poster-star-wars-poster.jpg

Am currently copyediting a book on "philosophy" by a former Republican governor, and the gobsmacking hypocrisy of these people re: religion never ceases to amaze. Almost every single time this guy touches on Christianity, he's just completely wrong about what he's saying.

Like, Genesis 1:1. The first verse in the whole damn Bible. Impossible to fuck it up.

In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.

Except THIS asshat writes that it says

In the beginning, there was God.

Also claims that the Bible teaches Jesus was the first person to experience an afterlife, which it IN NO WAY says.

But of course this guy ran as the godly/moral candidate, tried to pass incredibly restrictive abortion laws, and was in favor of a same-sex marriage ban in his state, despite evidently not knowing incredibly basic tenets of his "faith," which I, the atheist, am now correcting him on in his copyedit.

Is it really that hard to just . . . google the first verse of the Bible? If you're going to fake it at least put some effort in.

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Not a new song, but it's been giving me dem late-capitalist-climate-change blues recently. (Also Lorde was SIXTEEN when she wrote this wtf.)

Ugh, yeah, that's part of the bigger cultural issue where method acting has become synonymous with "becoming" your character, which leads to stuff like Jared Leto being an absolute asshole to his fellow cast members under the guise of truly "being" the Joker.

It's sorta like Teague's Aurora rant, where by posting Batman-with-black-armband memes you're reducing the shooting victims to Batman fans—the people who insist Ledger died because he "couldn't handle" life after the Joker are reducing his entire being and body of work to the psychotic clown he played once. It's an insult, and it enables abusive nonsense like Leto's behind-the-scenes shtick.

(I have no hopes that any aspects of Joaquin Phoenix's Joker movie will be good outside his performance, but it's so refreshing that he keeps getting annoyed when people ask him about playing the character and says it's just a paycheck like any other. Guy gets it.)