The scary part to me (and the worst part) is that he might be able to recover, somehow...well, it wouldn't surprise me if he did.

Check out Jimmy's post.

http://friendsinyourhead.com/forum/view … 713#p45713

And Roman soldiers spoke Latin Z instead of a Spanish Z....

oh forget it

I liked Caviezel's performance, though.

Plus, you know, Aramaic

I may not agree with your sentiment, but I admire your honesty, both Eddie's and Dorkman.

I have been going back and forth in this thread and certainly have been challenged in my thinking. So, in that vein, it has been very enlightening. While I didn't expect it, it is interesting, especially after having to read psychology papers and articles for so long. Having go back and do some research in theology has been a change.

I recall a quote from Penn (or Teller, sorry it's been a while) that discussed a similar notion to what Eddie is talking about. The idea that believing in the God of the Bible is essentially and absolution of personal responsibility. That, I am not responsible for my choices or actions, that is the evil inside of me and that I need outside help to get past it.

Speaking from a purely psychological point of view, this can be offensive. It flies in the face of the current humanistic thought, that humanity is able to, if freed from common restraints, will excel. For those of you unfamiliar with humanistic psych, a quick example is Abraham Maslow and his hierarchy of needs, with the end being self-actualization.

It is very human to have to work for anything and to get something for something makes us uncomfortable. Believe me, working in retail and sampling this can be a fight. People want free stuff, but look at you cross-eyed when you actually give it to them.

It comes down to your view of humanity. The view that man is fallen, or evil, is not a new one, nor is it new to Christianity. The idea that man will be bent towards evil is even in psychological thought, especially Freud, but it is not popular now. People would like to think of themselves as good people who do good things. But, it is hard to escape the evil of man at times.

In my view, and others, the idea that believing in Christ absolves a person of their personal responsibility in this life, in the current moment, or in our decisions is not a biblical line of thought. God is freeing us to have the capacity to do good, and become better. That doesn't change my ability to choose or be free moral agents. It is a relationship and partnership, as true as any human friendship and more empowering for me to do good and to love in a deeper capacity.

I have discuss the more historical and textual issues relating to the Bible, because I really wanted to avoid the personal road. But, Eddie inspired me, a little, to be honest and to relate how personal the Bible and Jesus Christ are to me.

I understand why people disagree, but there is so much more to it than the common conceptions of organized Christianity. There is so much depth there that I would not understand but want to understand. Beyond that, it gets even more personal. But, it is much deeper than going to church, tithing, and praying.

Thanks for listening

Also voted.

And this is how they suck you in, since you have to go back every day to vote for your film...

Sounds good to me.

How is Stormdancer? It sounds really interesting and I might have to pick it up, as part of my resolution to read more.

I haven't had the chance to read the making of for Empire or Jedi but I need too. The Star Wars one is one of my favorite books about film making and the process, so I can imagine that the others are great too. Just no retailer seems to have them nearby

Quick edit: I looked up the books on Amazon and did the whole "Look inside" bit. One piece of concept art is of a Y Wing pilot thinking, "Die, you gravy sucking kong." Man, why were lines like that cut?

Wow. Nice work!

Thanks!

The Journey to Prometheus or how I learned to stop thinking and start to love Ridley Scott: A writer's tale, the complete and unedited edition.