Topic: #66 - Programming Childhood
...seriously, watch The Sandlot.
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mmhm, Winnie Cooper.
Danica McKellar turned out okay, too.
Huh, interesting episode. Hadn't ever even heard of Fraggle Rock, never watched Muppets or Sesame Street. I'm getting the feeling this is a generational thing (I'm guessing you guys grew up in the 80s), since I wouldn't have really been watching TV a lot till the mid-90s, so I'm guessing most of these weren't airing regularly on TV anymore at that point (well, Sesame Street has been around forever, but I had outgrown it by the time I started watching TV).
So for me it'd be more Looney Tunes and Nickelodeon cartoons (and maybe Power Rangers, I vaguely remember that still being a thing when I was a kid).
Sesame Street is in it's 42nd year and just as relevant as it always was. Fraggle Rock was very much born of the eighties. I grew up with a ton of Nickelodeon stuff too, but it was the original Nick stuff like You Can't Do That on Television, Pinwheel, and as I mentioned, Mr. Wizard.
There is also an availability divide. Our house did not have cable until both us kids were in college. Thus, no nick, no disney channel. We DID get Fraggle Rock, as it was a HBO and CBC coproduction and thus was available on Canadian TV. Other than that, if it wasn't syndicated or on a broadcast network, we didn't see it. We got a VCR in the mid-80's, when both of us were in high school.
My father used to tell the story of how, when Sesame Street started, one of his fellow teachers refused to let his own kids watch it because it had Black kids playing with the Whites. Dad had his own issues, but he took it as a point of pride that he wasn't THAT bad!
I actually intended to bring up Cosmos, but ran out of time. That was a hugely important show to me, and the new version, provided it lives up to my high expectations, will be seen by Grayson NOW.
I prefer The Muppet Show over Fraggle Rock but I do understand why others would think the opposite. I just like Fozzie Bear and Gonzo so much ![]()
Fraggle Rock aired in the UK with different versions to those that aired in the US. We had a different Lighthouse keeper (we had three in the shows run) and Uncle Traveling Matt traveled the UK. ![]()
OK, finally listened to all of it, and so yes, thanks for the unexpected shoutout ![]()
As for dropping anime knowledge, all three shows that made up Robotech are available in their original form. Southern Cross (which was originally canceled before they could come up with an ending) and Genesis Climber Mospeada are available subtitled, and the ADV release of Macross has subtitles as well as a new dub. All are well worth watching. The biggest change made to turn them into Robotech, besides deciding all the Black characters were related, was to change "proto-culture" into the fuel used in Mospeada. Originally, in Macross, it's literally the culture both humans and the aliens are descended from, and the aliens react to human culture the same way many around the world react to US culture (leaders are repelled, some of the people love it).
For me, actually, what Robotech was for Eddie STARBLAZERS was in my life. The first two series of Space Battleship Yamato were brought to the US under that name in 1978, and it was incredible. They toned down the death a bit, but not much. Characters still died, actions have consequences. It was my first real exposure to serial storytelling. The dubbing still holds up, even if "Captain Avatar" sounds like McGruff the Crime Dog.
Miyazaki didn't direct Grave of the Fireflies. It IS from Studio Ghibli, which tends to only release Miyazaki movies, so the confusion is understandable.
I like the analogy of The Muppet Show to WWE. It reminded me of one of the most monumental moments in my childhood TV viewing life. The 70's were when a bunch of old kids shows tried to make a comeback. They did a new syndicated Mickey Mouse Show, as well as a new Howdy Doody. My dad had loved the show as a kid, so naturally I watched the new one (from the dates, I was about 7 when it started). Each episode had Buffalo Bob trying to put on that week's show, and the clown Clarabell would keep interrupting. At some point, as I watched, I thought to myself, "Man, they have NEVER actually finished an act!"
At which point, I realized the horrible truth: Clarabell, and all the interruptions, were scripted.
A part of me died that day...
One of RObotech's oddest legacies is that the US company that distributed it here, Harmony Gold, still has it's offices on the Sunset Strip here in Hollywood. They have a very nice screening room that they rent out all the time for premiere's, SAG, and DGA screenings. You always here of screenings at the Harmony GOld theater, but most don't realize what Harmony Gold does mostly.
Yeah, their existence appears to stem mostly from exploiting Robotech and trying to get money from Macross derivatives they have no rights or connection to by bullying small companies; a court in Japan ruled about 10 years ago that the company HG bought the worldwide distribution rights from don't own the intellectual property, so they don't either. HG's response? Essentially, 'we're Americans not Japanese'.
However, they've gone much further than simply believing they own the entire franchise and blocking the sale of Macross goods, they have actually trademarked "Macross" in certain countries (including the US and UK), which in my mind turns them from being pricks to outright fuckers. Why are they allowed to continue? It's a mystery, but one assumes Big West simply doesn't see the value in foreign markets as good enough to warrant the inevitably costly legal battle and until they sort that out they'll never do business with HG. And why should they? This is a company that even tried to trademark Macross in Japan!
On a lighter note, I've just started watching the new version of Space Battleship Yamato and I'm enjoying it immensely.
But otherwise, the middle schoolers are living in sin! ![]()
And, if you watch the dub, you get to hear Cary Elwes battle Tim Curry, the matchup you've all been waiting for!
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