Re: THE LORD OF THE RINGS
Vincent: So you never wanted a regular type life?
Neil: What the fuck is that? Barbeques and ballgames?
Vincent: Yeah.
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Vincent: So you never wanted a regular type life?
Neil: What the fuck is that? Barbeques and ballgames?
Vincent: Yeah.
I sent a gift to the cast and crew to Teague. I'll be listening in until I have to leave for my Mom's birthday dinner (which is Summer Shack, so, totally worth it).
Hopefully I'll have something of substance to say during the commentary...
Hobbit & LOTR were my over-and-over-again bedtime stories growing up.
I actually wrote a pitch to, and followed up by phone with, the Saul Zaents company in 1992. I insisted that the motion capture technology and computer animation at the time were up to the task, and that each chapter should be released separately in serial form before feature films. I proposed that this would have gotten butts in the seats in movie theaters in unpreceneded numbers. Not saying I was right, but if you were wondering who originally got this ball rolling...you're welcome. ;-)
I'll be in and out of the chat. Jackson earned my eternal venomous dislike by cutting "The scouring of the shire," the chapter of the book that properly brought home the Hobbits' respective arcs and killed Saruman in a satisfactory way. Although I do own the extended DVDs, and grudgingly await the Hobbit films... Brilliant to break that book into two films. Bilbo could have two distinct arcs that way: getting the team to the lake with all hands alive, and then, DRAGON!!
Cutting the Scouring is the single best choice Jackson made.
Come at me bro.
I agree with Mike. I didn't miss Bombadil either.
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I never read the books. What the fuck is a Bombadil?
Some super powerful magic guy that would run into the Fellowship, be like, "sup guys!" sing a song, and leave.
EDIT: Several times.
If Disney was at the helm, Bombadil wouldn't have been cut.
The Tom Bombadil Wikipedia page is creepily extensive.
Job for Mythbusters: can a Hobbit throw a rock and take out an armoured Orc?
Palantir or Skype? Which is better on 4G?
Well the connection quality for the pilantir is amazing, but the carrier rates are through the roof.
There are changes that are actually pretty acceptable:
Arwen replacing Glorfindel
No barrow-wights
No Tom Bombadil
No scouring of the shire
Eomer replacing Erkenbrand
But there are others which are just crap. The Army of the Dead was very poorly used, raising more questions and plot holes, and there's the downright laughable bit with Gandalf having his staff broken by the Witchking who's apparently using the Force. The characterisation of Theoden and Denethor in particular are thin and lack any kind of subtlety. It's a testament to Bernard Hill's performance that he still remains somewhat likeable. Conversely, Sean Bean's Boromir is fantastic and arguably better than the book (where he's not that memorable except for dying).
And fucking Arwen... everytime she appears in the later two movies the pacing comes to a screeching halt. And why is she dying? Stop making stupid shit up!
I grew up with the Bakshi cartoon and I actually think it does a few things better than the movie. The most immediate that comes to mind is the introduction of Gandalf the White. I just think it's set up better. In the movie, Legolas just refers to something off-screen and it's just a really weird way to go into the scene. The ride out from Helm's Deep is a hell of a lot more dramatic too.
Any thought given to how these are to be released? are we doing "by-disc" releases, separate movie releases, or one epic file release?
I'd prefer three files, one for each movie, but it might be more convenient to break them up by disc (for sync purposes).
Looking forward to this - I can fly from London to Singapore and Down in Front will still be discussing Lord of the Rings, while all the other schmucks on the plane are watching Adam Sandler movies.
Don't worry, it's just a warm-up for the Harry Potter movie marathon commentary on Sunday.
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