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It's just a show, you should really just relax.
If it's technological, I may be able to help.
"That place burned down 30 years ago." - Sounds like the opening act in every "Are you afraid of the dark"/ "Twilight Zone"/ "Outer Limits" I've ever seen.
Oh, it's from "It's a Wonderful Life," when George is running around seeing the town as if he'd never lived. He asks where the Building and Loan building went and someone in the crowd says, "It went out of business 20 years ago!"
So there you go.
Starting Strength.
Though that's not a supplement, that's a primary thing that other things supplement.
That'd be funny if it were Gervais and Merchant.
That's not what he's saying at all, Eddie.
Guh, I don't have time to get sucked into this. But he doesn't literally watch a movie and process it as dry information. He's making a distinction at the legal definition level, not the human experience level.
Clarity
Specificity
Brevity
I'm dying to see this.
Too soon.
This conversation has gotten so far afield as to be pretty meaningless at this point.
Let me explain. No there is too much, let me sum up.
Dorkman et al believe because male characters aren't generally posed in the same overtly sexualized positions as female characters (ie said Avengers artwork), that men aren't sexualized [as much?]. I et al believe that men are sexualized as well (if not necessarily as much), but in a way that reflects the underlying attributes that (generally) define attraction for women, which are more about confidence, social status, and a certain kind of dominance, than physical looks alone. Getting upset that men are not sexualized/idealized/objectified in exactly the same way as women strikes me as slightly ridiculous.
This does not mean that sexism, objectification, or other cultural inequality don't exist in comics or culture at large. It's just that the cited example is a terrible way to make the point. Doubly so when it's coming from a movie written and directed by noted empowered female character creator Joss Whedon (even if we're talking marketing and not the actual movie).
K?
She may find a ripped male standing upright in a dominant position just as sexualized as men do of a woman bending over. It's the end result or the concept of sexualization that's the key, not the specific pose, as different poses work depending on gender.
Exactly.
I remember reading an X-Men comic somewhere along the way where even his legs are impossibly muscular and well defined, but the above image was the closest I could find in a web search.
Anyway, my point remains the same. Men are sexualized right along with women in how they're portrayed in comics and movies, it's just that men are sexualized in different ways from women. And what's wrong with being sexy anyway? Last time I checked none of us were Puritans.
What we're actually arguing over is something different, we're really arguing over objectification. The question is, "Is Scarlett Johannson being objectified as a sexual object and not being considered a person in her depiction in the movie or in that poster?" Is she treated or depicted in a manner in which she is nothing more than an inanimate object, without personality, dignity, self agency, or respect, and solely for men's sexual gratification? And the answer is obviously no. She's a character with a personality that passes the Plinkett Test and everything.
That's not to say there aren't plenty of examples of women characters being objectified all over media, including comics. But objectification and sexualizaton are different things and we needn't clutch our pearls over ScarJo showing some curve in the same frame as three guys with biceps the size of your thigh. And let's be honest, knee jerking about sexism in a movie written and directed by Joss Whedon is a little bit ridiculous.
Even the crippled dude is ungodly ripped.
Wonder how many hanging leg raises he had to do to get those abs.
I clicked "Random Article" and got my own page.
Agree on all previous points re: causality and second magic bean.
My big question was, doesn't it seem like a bad idea to rely on yourself to kill yourself? Yes, with a hood there's no reason you'd necessarily know, but still. Why not send Joe to Seth and Seth to Joe?
Every time they check their phones, they haven't moved, or they're even more lost than before.
So they used Apple Maps?
Somebody already had the idea:
My question is, why Yeoh and no Liu? And also, can Michelle Rodriguez please go away forever.
What the hell, I'll wax poetic.
A Single Moment of Triumph
This isn't a single moment of triumph, not one event in a void, separate and different from a host of others. This isn't the first time we've landed on Mars and it won't be the last. This is but one further step, a grand step in a grand pilgrimage of humanity towards an ultimate destiny. A destiny we craft ourselves, moment by moment, forging the impossible from the universe with our minds and our hands. It is a destiny passed onto us from all who came before, from the first to come down from the trees and leave the caves, and it is a destiny we will pass on to those to come, those who will call Mars their home and those who will press even farther. We exist sandwiched between the past and the future, carrying a responsibility handed to us by our ancestors, fulfilling promises we make to our descendants. We are one link in a chain that spans the entirety of time, and today is another link forged. Real success is not a one off venture, not a single moment of triumph. Real success exists on a time line, it is a trajectory. It begins at zero, it starts at your feet with a single step. It takes you out the door and up mountains, across oceans, beyond horizons, and to other worlds. It takes you as far as you can go, as far as your strength, your resolve, your intelligence, your creativity, your curiosity can carry you. It can take you to the moon and Mars, and it can do it again and again and again. And it can take you farther.
This is not a single moment of triumph, it is one of many, part of a trajectory we set for ourselves on our grand pilgrimage through the universe.
This movie started off with one of my least favorite tropes and went off the rails from there.
Oh and Jesus was a spaceman! (Interview with Ridley Scott and many spoilers)
Two years ago I went to a film festival that showed Alien and Blade Runner with a Q&A with Ridley Scott, wherein he tried to describe what he was trying to do with Prometheus. In the process, he went off on this cockamamy description of Relativity and time dilation that made no goddamn sense. It was at that point that I feared for this movie. Somehow it's managed to make even less sense than whatever he was on about at that festival.
And if his revisiting of Alien is this much of a nonsensical self-indulgent metaphoric circle jerk, then truly all hope is lost for the new Blade Runner.
I'm so proud of you guys, you've pretty much covered it. Ugh, what a terrible movie.
Tesla.
Alfonso Cuarron.
Where do you want to retire?
Go look at the cover of a romance novel for women, then at this poster again.
I'm seeing a lot of pecs and arms, which is what I'm seeing in the Avengers promo. Am I wrong?
Sure, the various Avengers aren't shirtless (besides Hulk, and I wouldn't even really count him in this discussion, though I guess some people are probably into that), but neither is Johansson for that matter, and it's not a detail in the marketer's control anyhow.
Ya know, I don't get this either. Yes, Scarlett Johansson is a beautiful woman and that fact is well and prominently displayed. But there is a knee jerk feminism implied in that cartoon that's kind of ridiculous. Are we objectifying Scarlett Johansson and putting her in outfits and poses that make it easier for us to fantasize having sex with her? Yeeesss.
Are we somehow not doing that with the guys? Cause we kinda are. It's just that the way men sexualize women and the way women sexualize men are different, thus different emphases and different poses. And are we really going to make an argument about there being some sexist double standard when there are FIVE different flavors of beefcake for the ladies to drool over versus Johansson's sumptuous ass?
TIL the 2011 Japanese earthquake/tsunami was almost as expensive as an alien invasion. Yikes.
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